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TV Guide Article

Jan 16 2008 04:16 pm   #1Syndyloo
Anyone see this week's tv guide article on "Spike TV".   Nice interview with James, he even states the Spike movie may not be dead...unlikely, but not dead.  Nice pictures too!  Talks about his kiss with Captain Jack and the possibility of more Torchwood episodes.
Jan 16 2008 05:46 pm   #2nmcil
Thanks for the info -
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Jan 16 2008 07:07 pm   #3Guest
does anybody know where i can see this article at

thanks
Jan 16 2008 07:10 pm   #4Guest
What does it say in the article?
Jan 16 2008 07:45 pm   #5TammyDevil666
You should be able to read the article here:  community.livejournal.com/james_daily/65596.html#cutid1
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Jan 16 2008 08:28 pm   #6Guest
Thank you for posting the article.

It was a great article. James looks so sexy too. But that isn't a surprise.

I like the part where Without A Trace wanted to do more episodes but kind of got miffed when they found out he wasn't available anymore. I like it because that means James is busy and because they want him back. It seems James has a habit of making shows want him back for more. Which is why I am surprise he never became a regular on a show after Buffy and Angel.

I would like to know how bad James was at that time when he got kicked out of college. I bet he was such a bad boy.

Yes, James you are aging well.  Another guy man that I like that aged really well is Alan Rickman. Too sexy men. And their voices are so sexy. hehe....


Jan 17 2008 04:15 am   #7nmcil
Thanks loads for the link - JM looks great - I am so glad that he has this woman in his life and I hope that their relationship can last - trying to be partners when one is very successful and does a lot of travelling is difficult - I have a little of that in my life and sometimes things can get just a tad hard.
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Jan 17 2008 05:26 am   #8Guest
Thanks for the link. 

Ah, did anyone catch what James said about doing Torchwood  (direct quote) "I'd never kissed a man on film before." 
Is it only me, or does that imply that he had kissed a man before, just not on film...
Just curious.
Jan 17 2008 05:42 am   #9TammyDevil666
Well, I do know that he shared a brief kiss with Nicholas Brendon before.  It wasn't technically on film, but it made it to the dailies.  Of course, there could be another time that we're just not aware of.
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Jan 17 2008 06:46 am   #10Guest
Also, I think he has kissed a man on stage before.  Remember he does come from theater.

And when he was younger he used to go up and plant a kiss on  guy lips. Just to shock people. I mean I don't think these were deep kisses or anything. Probably just a peck on the lips. But still.
Jan 17 2008 06:48 am   #11TammyDevil666
Right, I forgot about theater.  I heard that he was a homophobe, though, which I still find hard to believe.
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Jan 17 2008 07:24 am   #12Guest
Yeah, I have a hard time believing that he is homophobia.  Not if he has kissed men before. Whether it be for acting or giving guys pecks on the lips. Any man that  is one wouldn't even dare kissed another man on the lips.

Also, before Torchwood.  He was going to play a gay man in  a movie that was to be titled Venetian Heat but I guess not enough funding for it. And he was going to be in a play where he plays a gay man but again the play didn't happen because of money. So, he takes on a lot of parts where he has to play gay men.  I just don't see him as a homophobia.
Jan 17 2008 01:39 pm   #13Guest
Would it change your opinion of him if he was?
Jan 17 2008 06:09 pm   #14TammyDevil666
Not me, there is a lot that I don't like about him, but I still think he's a great actor and I'll love him no matter what.
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Jan 17 2008 07:56 pm   #15Scarlet Ibis
I don't see a true homophobe going around kissing guys--acting or otherwise.  Sounds like a guy who's comfortable with his sexuality.
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Jan 17 2008 08:30 pm   #16Nika
I can't either. I've got a homophobic mother and I really can't see her going around kissing other women if she was an actress, no matter how much money the role payed. True homophobics, I think, wouldn't even joke about being gay in interviews, and I think he has teasingly in some. And I do know he was scheduled to play a gay character in a movie that never got made.

But maybe he was when he was younger, and if he was, he's obviously taken a few steps in overcoming that phobia if he's brave enough to kiss a known gay man.
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Jan 18 2008 01:07 am   #17Eowyn315
I thought the homophobia was something he admitted himself - when he was considering (or possibly accepted) a homosexual role (in a movie that was never made), and he realized how much prejudice he still had buried, that he didn't realize was there.
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Jan 18 2008 01:14 am   #18Guest
I'm just wondering, does anything an actor/actress does affect your view of a character they play? If you don't like the actor/actress as a person would that give you a predisposition to dislike a character they perform?
Jan 18 2008 01:36 am   #19Shadow
2 words... paris hilton...
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Jan 18 2008 02:21 am   #20SpikesKatMac
If I don't like an actor, I really have to have a good reason to go see their movie (ie my husband dragging me to go see it); once I'm in the theatre/in front of the TV, I might like the movie ok, but I'd never sit down to watch a movie voluntarily if an actor I dislike is in it.  However, if I fall in love with an actor, there isn't much that I would hear about them after the fact that would prevent me from seeing their work.
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Jan 21 2008 07:32 pm   #21nmcil
I thought the homophobia was something he admitted himself - when he was considering (or possibly accepted) a homosexual role (in a movie that was never made), and he realized how much prejudice he still had buried, that he didn't realize was there.

all I can say is "Chance"   a real homophobic would not play this role.  Maybe if an actor/actress is complete dependent on money earned, they would accept a part, but they would be extreme resentful.   James Marsters seems like a  liberal person - if he did discover that he had hidden prejudice and fears regarding homosexuals, it would be very disturbing to him.



” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Jan 21 2008 07:54 pm   #22nmcil
I do respond to RL actions - but the acts have to be very important with my individual ideals - primarily the acts would have to be violence or bigotry against other people that have impacted on the Real World.  We all have our ugly side and these performers are just people - some with immense wealth and power, but they still have all their very ugly sides just like us. 

Unfortunately, sometimes their public audience get false information or a very distorted presentation of a scandal - I am thinking of Woody Allen and his adopted daughter.  I would not see a Woody Allen project for anything - later there were other POV given - so I decided that I would get over my personal boycott and judgements.

What is totally rediculous and shameful is how much poor Marc Blucas and his portrayal of Riley has made me avoid his films - HOW TOTALLY STUPID CAN I BE - so now I am making a point to see his other work -
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Jan 21 2008 08:44 pm   #23Eowyn315
Here's the quote I was referring to, from an interview with SFX back in 2003:

"It's about being yourself. When I first got the script I was really impressed by it, but I was really reticent about the sex scenes. I had to confront my own homophobia, which I thought, I didn't have any of. I've grown up in the theatre and I thought I didn't have any of that."

Also, from a Q&A in 2003:

"And so, you know, at first, you know, they offer me the role and Derek Jacoby is in it, Sean Bean is in it, you know, so it was like a big deal. … I go up to my manager, do I have to kiss a guy? You know, and it’s like, ohhh yeah. And I’m like, ahhhh. And then I- then I read the script and it was so much more than kissing I froze up for a while and then- and I just put the script away and I started, I started making connection- my own personal connection to it so I feel like, I feel like I can play that role."

The film was first called "Italian Heat," then "Venetian Heat," and James was supposed to play a gay man in fascist Italy, living a lie, married to a woman because of fear of persecution. It was never filmed, although it's still listed in IMDB. It's now called "Out of the Night," and has been totally recast.

He seems to have gotten over his reticence enough to play an omnisexual on Torchwood, but I wonder if he'd have hesitated if the role required more than kissing.
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Jan 21 2008 08:59 pm   #24Scarlet Ibis
I can understand that.  Kissing's one thing.  Sex scenes usually require a bit more nakedness than that.  I think that to have reservations about such a role doesn't equate to homophobia (perhaps James sees this differently, but he's often harder on himself, as most people are).  If I were an actor, and asked to do a sex scene period, I'd have reservations, let alone one with a woman, and I'm very liberal.

Anyway, in the end, he accepted the role, gay sex scenes and all, though the film never got made.
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Jan 21 2008 11:31 pm   #25Guest
I agree with you nmcil about Woody Allen, fortunately I don't like him anyway.  My real problem is Roman Pulaski.  I really like his movies and he supposedly did a 13 year girl.  What a perv.  Of course, if you don't watch his movies, you're not punishing just him, but all the actors and people who worked on the movies who didn't know anything about it at the time.  Mostly, I try to separate the actor from what he says or does - particularly politics, unless they're too obnoxious.