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Spike, Angel and Xander

Jun 21 2008 12:02 pm   #1sosa lola
A while back I wrote this list where those three helped or showed care about the other, even though they're supposed to dislike one another. I don't think I got it all, so if you remember something I didn't add, please tell me.

Angel to Xander:

- Saving Xander's life along with Giles and Willow in Out of Mind, Out of Sight

- Flashing a smile at Xander when Xander rescued Buffy in Prophecy Girl

- In Halloween, Angel ignored Buffy and Cordelia and hurried to help Xander beat up Larry.

- In The Zeppo, Angel thought it was better for Xander's safety to stay away from anything related to the apocalypse.

- In Consequences, Angel saved Xander's life from Faith.

- Working together with Xander on some missions even with the bickering. For Example: Lie to Me.


Xander to Angel:

- Going to Angel's apartment to get Angel to help him save Buffy and encouraging Angel to *actually* move his ass to save Buffy. The point is seeking the vamp he dislike's help to save the girl he's in love with.

- Returning Angel's smile in Prophecy Girl.

- Letting Angel use him as bait with Spike in School Hard. Not to mention, not dwelling on Angel's "if he bit you we'll know he bought it."

- Arguing against Kendra's decision to kill Angel. "Angel is our friend, except I don't like him."

- Helping Buffy to save Angel in Amends.

- Asking Buffy and Angel if he could help solving their argument in The Zeppo.

- When Oz and Willow found the cure to save Angel in Graduation Part 1 but were too shocked to reveal what it was, Xander urged them, "Come on guys, the suspense is killing Angel."

- Helping Angel with the missions they have together even with bickering there.


Xander to Spike:

- Taking Spike in during S4 instead of killing him or throwing him out while he was helpless.

- Xander gives Spike an apologetic shrug after beating him in Hush.

- Almost putting himself in danger of being hit by falling rocks, Xander jumps to pull Spike from under that piece of beam, saving his life in Doomed.

- When Spike lies about being Xander's friend, Xander lets him with an amused look.

- In The Yoko Factor, when Spike planned to 'pretend to go back under disguise into the Initiative', Xander delivered him the clothes appropriate with the 'job'. Xander is so naive sometimes.

- In Primeval when Spike rescued the Scoobies, he asked to be forgiven for his betrayal, then we see Giles and Willow looking at Xander as if asking for permission. Xander just shakes his head letting Spike be, instead of grabbing him and staking him.

- He bonds with Spike in Triangle.

- Being understanding about Spike's state in Intervention, and actually giving excuses to Buffy not to kill him.

- Lighting Spike's cigarette in Spiral and asking about Spike's wounds.

- In Normal Again, telling Buffy that he feels sorry for Spike and understands what he's going through because Xander also had had an unrequited love for Buffy back in high school.

- Saying "thank you" to Spike when he saved him in Normal Again.

- Taking Spike back in Him.

- Working together with Spike in Him.

- When Anya asked Xander to back her up in her 'we must kill Spike' argument, Xander chose to ignore her in Never Leave Me.

- Instead of blaming Spike, like Willow, Xander suggested that it wasn't Spike's fault that he's killing, it was probably because The First had triggered him.

- In Get It Done, Xander was the only one who considered that Spike can bring the demon, when everybody even Buffy had underestimated Spike.

- In Lies My Parents Told Me, Xander gave Spike a pat on the shoulder for support.


Spike to Xander:

- Spike suggesting for Xander to have chicken wings or onion rings in Triangle.

- Bonding with Xander in Triangle.

- Smiling at Xander in Spiral after the exchange: Have I mentioned how much I hate you? You let it slip in twice.

- Giving Xander an impressed gaze when Xander stabbed Dock. (I'm not sure about this one, but I heard some fans speaking about it.)

- Being shocked and upset that Xander didn't inform him about bringing Buffy back because both of them had fought side by side during the summer.

- Saving Xander's life in Older and Far Away.

- Saving Xander in Normal again.

- Working together with Xander in Him.

- The worried tone in his voice when he told Buffy that Xander is in danger in First Date.

- Saving Xander's other eye in Dirty Girls. Spike looked very worried about Xander's welfare before he goes in to save his other eye from Caleb.


Spike to Angel:

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Spike saves Angel from the necromancer.

- Trying to give Angel an advice about Wolfram and Hart in his Spike way.

- Spike tried to help Angel against a Groxlar beast although, he could just be wanting to have scrap.

- Spike helped Angel by giving him a plan in Just Rewards.

- Spike saved Angel from a Selminth parasite in Soul Purpose.

- Spike helps Angel in You're Welcome.

- He also stuck a knife through him to save him from a bug that was on his back in a whole in the world!

- Spike didn't kill Angel in Destiny.

- Spike helped Angel to get Lindsey back.

- Sticking by Angel's side and helping him save the world.


Angel to Spike:

- In Season2 BtVS, Angel tells Dru to take Spike and leave so Buffy won't harm them.

- After Spike had Angel tortured, instead of going after him (like Buffy went after Faith), Angel let's him go.

- Angel cooperated with Spike and followed his plan in Just rewards.

- Angel telling Spike he liked his poetry.

- In Why We Fight, during the flashback, Angel dusted all the evil vampires that were originally in the sub but Spike whom he let go without any harm.

- In Damaged, Angel warned Spike about Dana and rushed to Spike's rescue, also comforting Spike and finding common ground with him in the hospital.

- Angel saves Spike from being killed by Illyria and gets stabbed in the process.

- Working together even when they act like babies.

Jun 21 2008 04:56 pm   #2Scarlet Ibis

Great list.

Spike saves Angel from the necromancer.
Spike looked very worried about Xander's welfare before he goes in to save his other eye from Caleb.
After Spike had Angel tortured, instead of going after him (like Buffy went after Faith), Angel let's him go.

I think the "Taking Spike back in 'Him'" should be emphasized--why should Xander be forced to have Spike live with him?  He so was in the right to not be okay with that.  Were there moments when they hated each other or were extremely pissed off?  Absolutely.  Was it all the time?  No.  Although, I'm not sure Angel ever really hated Xander--I think that's the one exception.

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Jun 21 2008 07:10 pm   #3sosa lola

Thank you for the examples, Scarlet, I'll add them :)

As for Angel not liking Xander, I do believe he didn't. When Xander knocked on the door in Prophecy Girl, when Angel answered the door, he looked disgusted or disappointed and said, "Oh. It's you." And he mocked Xander's need to save Buffy, repeating the word "kid" over and over. Angel also had petty jealousy when it came to Buffy and Xander's friendship in S2, especially after Buffy danced with Xander, and then there's the time when Angel hit Xander's jaw pretending to be Angelus and said, "That guy bugs me."

I would say that Xander dislikes Angel more than Angel dislikes Xander, though.

Jun 22 2008 01:55 am   #4nmcil
Wonderful List - thanks for all your efforts -  and on your Xander- Spike list - allowing Spike to live in his home is a big deal - just because Buffy needs for that to happen he does not have to agree, especially with their history and Spike's condition.

Appreciate see the other lists also -
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Jun 22 2008 03:21 pm   #5sosa lola
I'm glad you liked my list. I think in the end, Xander would do anything for Buffy, even if he didn't like it.