Is everyone tired of me yet? lol

Okay, another question came to my while I was looking for the Nikki info. We all know Buffy died by the Master, which called Kendra. Now if the slayer's powers are passed onto the new slayer, how did Buffy retain her power? When Xander brought her shouldn't she have been a normal girl after? Because Faith was The Slayer. Buffy was just a slayer. Was this an over site on the writers or am I missing something? Is Buffy in fact The Slayer and Faith is just a slayer, or do they share the power some kinda way? Did that make sense?

Yup, made sense and all! That's why we love Buffy, never following that darn handbook!

*giggles* Yeah, I did forget.

it's always been my opinion...and I think i read this in a fanfic somewhere too...but....I really think that her powers aren't slayer powers at all after she dies, but powers that somehow the master transferred to her when he bit her.

When she wakes up...there is this whole "otherworldlyness" about her and she comments about how strong she feels, and she obviously has some kind of weird psychic connection to the master because she A. somehow "feels" him and knows where he is (how the hell would she just know exactly where he was) and B. she's able to easily break his thrall now after only a little while before she couldn't fight it at all.

These are not the reactions of a normal slayer with no new powers that just came back from the dead...to me her powers now come from the master somehow.  Either that or it's just one more huge plothole to add to the ever growing and annoying buffyverse plotholes.  Seriously sometimes I wish they could have been the tiniest bit consistent.

Callbacks to earlier eps were great and that was something the show did well that lots of other shows fail to do...but would it have killed them to know what they'd actually already done and the rules they'd already set up.  It annoys me to such a level I almost hate the show now.  I like buffy and spike and certain episodes...but as a show it's just not the mothership to me anymore.  How can i respect something with so many freaking HOLES.

I feel your pain Zoe. That is something to think about. I never noticed that before, about her and the Master. Unless, after he killed her and Xander brought her back. And since as far as we know she was the first slayer to be brought back to life, maybe her slayer powers evolved some how. Like more of the demon took hold. Because her slayer skills advance more the older she got and the more training she did. That could also explain how she was finally able to break Dracula's thrall as well.

I've also had the feeling that CPR could have always been used on a Slayer, but the opportunity probably never arose, let alone the medical knowledge. It made sense for drowning, of course, but most other standard Slayer deaths/near-deaths wouldn't even call for it.

I guess they wanted us to think that the Slayer power didn't have long enough to leave her completely.....or that as long as a Slayer is alive, she owns her powers...hers no matter what (barring the drugs), so with resuscitation possible, she was still powerful. Since the power can be felt in their blood, it's reasonable to suppose that the Slayer demon bonds to the human girl's DNA. The Slayer "gene" would have to be turned off or eradicated to reverse the condition. And I'm way too technically minded......

As for the Master, maybe she felt a link through the bite? Or a residual feeling from the first thrall. I think she avoided thrall the second time because she knew what she was in for now. Buffy has always adapted in a fight.

heh, i like the dna grafting concept and am thrilled to know someone else has thought about this stuff as much as me.  freak! ;)

Noooooooo Buffy is The Slayer, The One; I mean look at her she is hot!

Kidding aside, once I read a fan fiction, don't remember which one, it was saying Buffy is the real chosen one and both Kendra and Faith was a glitch in the system and that's why they can never be as strong as her. Though then there is a phenomenon, why after Buffy died second time no new slayer is called. And it was explaining the situation by the fact that the continuance of the line passed to Kendra with power part of the Slayer essence but the real essence of the slayer is left in Buffy, like morals, or logic, equalance, as well as the power, that's why both Kendra and Faith were too occupied with the power instead of understanding the reason of their calling.  

It made sense to me.

I've always looked at it this way. When a girl was called, she was The Slayer. The only way for another girl to be called was for The Slayer to die. Slayers didn't lose their powers any other way, except for during the Crucimentium.

And lets face it...most Slayers were short lived. They died and there was no-one there to resurrect them. And technically, Buffy was only 'dead' for a minute and it wasn't considered a physical death but more of a clinical one. Her heart stopped which was just long enough to call forth another girl, but she wasn't brain dead. She was somewhere in between or else she wouldn't have been able to be revived.

Now as far as her 2nd death...it was explained that it was not a death by normal (or by human) means which was why Willow was able to bring her back and not Tara and when Buffy was put back into her body, it was as she was before she died...just with the new information of a few months in heaven. So, I figure since she was restored to what she was before her death, then it was only natural that her Slayer powers return with her.

I don't ever remembering reading that a Slayer will ever lose her powers. Her powers are hers for as long as she is alive. I always understood it that the Slayer power lived in every potential girl, but was just dormant until she was called.

Otherwise, how would Willow have been able to do the spell to turn all the potentials into Slayers?!? If it was as simple as just taking Buffy/Faith's powers as Slayers or the powers from the scythe and transferring it to a girl to make her a Slayer, then wouldn't any simple girl have done? Wouldn't Anya or Dawn have been able to become a Slayer too?

I really do think the power lies dormant within every potential slayer and once she is called, the only way to lose them would be for her to die. I don't think any Slayer that had died before Buffy was ever brought back so when Buffy was brought back, she was still as we know her. The Slayer.

That and there are prophecies about her and being one of the longest-lived Slayers in history as well as the best, I really think that might have added into it as well. She didn't follow the Slayer handbook (did she even get one at all?) and had friends and family and fought with them and used unconventional means rather than always the typical stake/holy water/chopping off the head. I think all of that might have factored into it as well.

I agree with Space here.  Potentials are just that... potential slayers.  A certain number of girls are born with slayer potential (any number of theories as to how/why that potential gets parceled out).  When Slayer A dies, some magic happens to tap potenial x so that she becomes Slayer B.   But while it is refered to as a passing of the torch or power, etc nothing really gets taken away from Slayer A.  It's just that she's not using it anymore, being dead and all.

I actually thought that it was consistent that Buffy's second death didn't tap a new Slayer.    If it were that easy, if repeated death of Slayer A could tap Slayer B, C, D, E.... the Council would have been shoving Slayers' heads  into buckets to temporarily drown them for centuries, to spawn multiple Slayers.

Ooooh! Great point! And the Council would have done just that, sick twisted bastards they they are.

I can even carry on the DNA concept, Zoe.....there's a genetic marker on every Potential! Like a proverbial arrow above their heads pointing the way for the Slayer essence. LOLOLOLOLOL......I've thought about the science behind the fairytales a lot, lol...don't even get me started on the suppositions for vampires! I guess that happens when a girl has her own National Geographic subscription by the age of 10. (Used to be able to rattle off every scientific name of every whale, porpoise, and dolphin, too.) Just call me a short Fred. ;)

Deleting my rant.  *headdesk*

Check out Dia's, when it rains post on the front page for an explanation, Coquine.   A bunch of forum posts apparently got lost.   Bummer.

*is sheepish*

I read the post when she first put it up, but I didn't realize it referred to older posts.  I was just checking up on the thread, saw mine was gone, and it got my hackles all raised up.  I was all..."um, exCUSE me???"

I say again...*is sheepish*

Thanks msclawdia.

hee hee hee, al is forgiven, well for me anyway. i had to read the post three times before it sunk into my brain. poor me, sometimes things fly right over, lol.