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JM on Caprica
Hey.
Here's a looky at JM on Caprica...featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2010/03/caprica-james-marsters-syfy.html
Uber creepy and scary....but still HOT! ;)
Here's a looky at JM on Caprica...featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2010/03/caprica-james-marsters-syfy.html
Uber creepy and scary....but still HOT! ;)
Mar 02 2010 01:37 am #2TammyDevil666
Damn, that is seriously disturbing. Can't wait for the episode;)
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Mar 02 2010 02:10 am #3DreamScape99
I have to say I have watched that clip....Oh.. ten times now. Its so amazingly disturbed I just can't get enough. I'm already in love with his character. I can't wait for the actual episode. :)
I hope that some of you are watching this series, I think it is terrific and is just going to keep getter better and better - you can still do reasonable "catch-up" watching online before JM begins his guest appearance. Having Greystone's business rival ending up with all those tats is a big surprise -
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Mar 02 2010 04:32 am #5DreamScape99
The series is definitely really well done. Especially in the most recent episodes it has really surprised me on how good its gotten. Its take on technology's impact on the future and also religion is very unique. The fact that James is in this show only makes it 10 times better because he basically makes every show better. :)
Hadn't seen that clip yet, which is surprising since I've been watching the series since it started (and not just because JM was going to be guest-starring). I have to say that the self-mutilation is very medieval monk-ish. Very reminiscent of the monks who flagelatted (that means whipped themselves, get your minds out of the gutter!!) themselves as a scourge against sin. And Ohhhh, such a play on JM's past by Jane! The Scourge! Oh geezuz.
Ahem. Back to the serious scholar that I am and not the goofy fan-girl.
So. Monks. Right. Damn. I completely lost my train of thought. *wanders back into the woodwork searching for the threads of her mind*
Ahem. Back to the serious scholar that I am and not the goofy fan-girl.
So. Monks. Right. Damn. I completely lost my train of thought. *wanders back into the woodwork searching for the threads of her mind*
Makes a great connect and extreme version of the self torture by religious faithful and a very nice tribute to JM in that outstanding scene in 'Hell Bound" - the same barbed wire was used in that imagery.
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Mar 02 2010 10:07 pm #8Anca
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That clip made my day. Also the rumors about a second season http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=has_caprica_season_two_been
Mar 03 2010 01:35 am #9The Enemy of Reality
I really enjoyed the last episode, especially the character of Tamara and the whole premise of virtual reality. And of course I can't wait for the Friday's epi, the clip looks great! Seriously disturbing with gorgeous James in it. I think I'm going to love that epi. ;)
Mar 03 2010 01:52 am #10DreamScape99
Yeah! I loved last week's episode. Exploring the virtual reality and Tamara's character was definitely one of the best episodes so far...although I'm hoping Friday's will be much better ;)
Mar 03 2010 02:03 am #11coalitiongirl
I've only seen the first two- just started on Sunday so I'll be caught up for the JM eps. :)
Nmcil, just had to say that I love your icon! :D
Nmcil, just had to say that I love your icon! :D
The change with Tamara really changing th dynamics of the avatars and how she will start to connect with CyZoe - I am hoping that Barnabus will have some screentime with Sister Clarice - I would love to see James Marsters and Polly Walker working together.
Here is a short history of the Biblical Barnabus -
http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/CGG/ID/1417/Barnabas.htm
Here is a short history of the Biblical Barnabus -
http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/CGG/ID/1417/Barnabas.htm
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
The Tamara arc has the potential to really take off, I loved how her avatar awoke to her new reality and how she just, I guess the easiest way to describe it, "grew up". She's stuck in the holo, and now instead of letting events take place around her, she's going to influence and take charge. Good on Tam!
And can I also say that I love Joseph's (Yusif?) brother? Bad-ass mafioso assassin who just happens to be in a same sex relationship. I love how there isn't a hint of puritanical beliefs in the 12 planets -- at least none that we've seen yet. However, I do wonder if that's what Barnabus is going to preach? Since the STO seem to be all about morality.
I love this show. It's very thought provoking.
And I hope it does well, and that the actors (and writers) all benefit from being connected to the show.
And can I also say that I love Joseph's (Yusif?) brother? Bad-ass mafioso assassin who just happens to be in a same sex relationship. I love how there isn't a hint of puritanical beliefs in the 12 planets -- at least none that we've seen yet. However, I do wonder if that's what Barnabus is going to preach? Since the STO seem to be all about morality.
I love this show. It's very thought provoking.
And I hope it does well, and that the actors (and writers) all benefit from being connected to the show.
Mar 03 2010 02:36 pm #14The Enemy of Reality
The concept of sexuality seems to be taken quite differently than in our society, a lot less prejudiced. I guess we'll see what's the STO's position on that, but I don't think they're against it since Clarice seems to have a great number of both husbands and wives. ;)
That's the coming problem isn't - one groups perspectives of social moral standards and the theme of consequences. You can place in directly in our Real World and end up at the separation of Christianity from Jewish & Hebrew history and power struggles for the hearts and minds of humanity - all directly linked to what is still the social/religious/power struggles of today.
I sure hope that more people will start watching this excellent series - BSG and Caprica are my current TV replacement for all the Whedonverse - Hate that DollHouse was lost.
Barnabus is most definitely like the dark/negative aspect of any extreme religious/social mentality. What an interesting change for Tamara - she may be ended up being one the most interesting characters and the differences that come out between Tamara and Zoe. Sam Adama is turning out to be like Spike & Lafayette, a secondary character that is very popular and great screen presence. I like all the casting choices.
I sure hope that more people will start watching this excellent series - BSG and Caprica are my current TV replacement for all the Whedonverse - Hate that DollHouse was lost.
Barnabus is most definitely like the dark/negative aspect of any extreme religious/social mentality. What an interesting change for Tamara - she may be ended up being one the most interesting characters and the differences that come out between Tamara and Zoe. Sam Adama is turning out to be like Spike & Lafayette, a secondary character that is very popular and great screen presence. I like all the casting choices.
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Here is an interview with James Marsters about his role on Caprica - sorry to see that he had such a small amount of screen time - hope his character in the arc will have a much bigger part to play.
Do your kids have a favorite James Marsters character?
No, none of them are interested in the slightest. In general, kids care about what happens after you come back from the office. They don’t care that much about the office itself. Sullivan was interested to see me play Buzz Aldrin and the cowboy, because they were both heroes. When I got Torchwood, I gave him a call and I said, "Dude! I’m playing this time agent, man! I’ve got two guns, a sword and a time wristwatch that lets me go back and forward in time at will. It’s so cool." And he goes, "Dad, do you win?" I’m like, "What?" And he goes, "At the end of the episode, do you win or do you get your butt kicked like always?" "Well, I’ve got to play the villain so yeah, I get my butt kicked." He’s like, "Alright. What else do you have to talk about?" He doesn’t want to see me do evil. He wants me to save people.
No one gives back to fandom with his colorful TV characters quite like James Marsters. The actor rose to geek infamy in the late 1990s playing the deliciously malevolent blond vampire Spike opposite Sarah Michelle Gellar on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, then hounded a young Clark Kent (Tom Welling) as the robotic Brainiac on Smallville before throwing down with John Barrowman in the BBC’s popular Torchwood. Marsters adds to the list starting tomorrow, when he begins the first of five episodes on Syfy’s Battlestar Galactica prequel series, Caprica. His Barnabas Greeley is a rogue member of the enigmatic religious zealots known as Soldiers of the One, who believe in a single supreme god. He comes into conflict with Clarice (played by Polly Walker), who heads the STO faction on Caprica. "She’s too much of a pacifist. She’s like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., and I’m like Malcolm X," Marsters says. "He does not really agree with the way she’s doing it, and he’s starting his own faction with his own people." Marsters just came back from working on a new album in London and New Jersey to spend time with his two kids — son Sullivan, 13, and niece Brittany, 12 — and took time out to talk about Barnabas and his other screen personas. Read below for our conversation and check out a sneak peek of Friday’s episode of Caprica.
How much leverage did they give you to make Barnabas your own?
I feel like I climbed into a playpen with a bunch of energetic children who were just playing. I got down there and the word was I was going to be in a kilt, which I thought was fabulous. I was running around in kilts the first day. We took pictures of that, the pictures went upstairs and they said, "Nah. Not cool enough." They started throwing other stuff on me to the point where by the time we were filming, it was just like dark jeans, dark T-shirt and just a LOT of dirt. That worked great. And then a really cool jacket on top.
You’ve played some pretty famous characters over the years. Do you find that shades of any of them feed into Barnabas?
As Laurence Olivier said, an actor’s lucky if they have three characters in them and they’re just doing shades of that. I am hoping that there’s more than three. Maybe I have five. [Laughs]
Don’t you already have five by now?
[Laughs] I did do MacBeth before anyone knew about me, and that really helped me admit that I could be grossly evil if I was ambitious enough. Spike kind of furthered that, just to give in to being evil and just glory in it and realize that that is part of me. The robot on Smallville taught me how to manipulate the heck out of people and pretend that I care when I don’t. Doing Buzz Aldrin [in the TV movie Moonshot] and a cowboy for the Syfy movie High Plains Invaders last year helped me be steely, to cut myself off from all the emotions that swirl around the modern head and just be a fighter pilot or a cowboy — someone who does not cry. It all feeds into it. But as far as Barnabas, I feel like I’m maybe exploring a new place. He’s both intellectual but also really firmly rooted in his crotch and his stomach – he’s very visceral but he’s very intelligent at the same time. He’s very passionate about the cause he has. He lost a loved one to decadence, and he wants to help change the world. When was the last time I played a fanatic, someone who is so convinced they were right they were able to destroy things and still think they were good? I’m not sure I have.
Do you consider him a villain?
Hell no! You can’t. I’ve never thought [that] of any of the characters I’ve played who were making mistakes or hurting people. We’re all villains! It depends on if you’re hurting people or not on that day.
You’ve got a very fervent fan base, and you’ve kept feeding them cool characters over the years.
I’ve been very lucky. When a show needs a character that needs to pop, to really stir up the pot and change things a little bit, they tend to think of me. I keep getting handed these roles that are just designed for you to hit a home run, and they do everything they can to support you. Wow, if that’s my cross, I guess I’ll bear it.
When you were starting out as an actor, did you have that same reputation, in smaller theater groups or with people you worked with?
I never really thought about that. I tended to find a way to pop, whether that was supposed to happen or not. [Laughs] I never tried to steal the scene. I was always trying to serve the script, but yeah, I would get good attention and a lot of jealousy from other people. I discovered in fourth grade that I when I got in front of a group of people, we could have a lot of fun together.
You used to front the band Ghost of the Robot and now you’ve gone solo. Are you still doing a lot of music these days?
Yeah, I just did some scratch tracks for a new album with Charlie De Mars, the lead guitarist and songwriter for Ghost of the Robot. He and I have been playing with my son Sullivan, who
is monster good at lead guitar now. Just strangely good, like "Where did that come from?" He was really good in baseball, and I just sucked at baseball when I was young. He was a pitcher and I’m trying to catch really fast fastballs and just fearing for my life, because I’m not that good a catcher. So when he picked up guitar, I was like, "Right on! Now he’s in my home turf. Now I’m going to be the guy who shows him all the ropes." That lasted for about two weeks. I’m a rhythmic guitarist, and he just passed me like I was standing still.
Do your kids have a favorite James Marsters character?
No, none of them are interested in the slightest. In general, kids care about what happens after you come back from the office. They don’t care that much about the office itself. Sullivan was interested to see me play Buzz Aldrin and the cowboy, because they were both heroes. When I got Torchwood, I gave him a call and I said, "Dude! I’m playing this time agent, man! I’ve got two guns, a sword and a time wristwatch that lets me go back and forward in time at will. It’s so cool." And he goes, "Dad, do you win?" I’m like, "What?" And he goes, "At the end of the episode, do you win or do you get your butt kicked like always?" "Well, I’ve got to play the villain so yeah, I get my butt kicked." He’s like, "Alright. What else do you have to talk about?" He doesn’t want to see me do evil. He wants me to save people.
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Thank you so much for posting this, nmcil. I hadn't seen this interview; where is it from? His personality, intelligence, and humor really shine through in this interview (as always!).
James mentions in the interview that when producers want a character who will just "pop", they call him in. He isn't being immodest at all because he is absolutely right. He does make his characters believable yet so much larger than life that they do indeed "pop". That is a perfect word for his presence--his characters "pop"! It must be hard for the regulars of any show because they know when James comes on, they'll fade into the background--although Capt. Jack and he were well matched in charisma, I'd say. But he blew everyone else on every other show out of the water!
And he isn't disturbed at all that his own son and niece aren't part of his fandom; if anything he sounds amused. He is so well-grounded. James hit a real truth about kids not caring about what mom or dad do at the office, just about who they are when they get home. But I know when they get older and see him in some of these roles, they will be in awe!!! (like the rest of us)
James mentions in the interview that when producers want a character who will just "pop", they call him in. He isn't being immodest at all because he is absolutely right. He does make his characters believable yet so much larger than life that they do indeed "pop". That is a perfect word for his presence--his characters "pop"! It must be hard for the regulars of any show because they know when James comes on, they'll fade into the background--although Capt. Jack and he were well matched in charisma, I'd say. But he blew everyone else on every other show out of the water!
And he isn't disturbed at all that his own son and niece aren't part of his fandom; if anything he sounds amused. He is so well-grounded. James hit a real truth about kids not caring about what mom or dad do at the office, just about who they are when they get home. But I know when they get older and see him in some of these roles, they will be in awe!!! (like the rest of us)
here is the link for this JM interview - ran across it while I was looking at an OSCAR site -
http://whosnews.usaweekend.com/2010/03/james-marsters-adds-pop-to-syfys-caprica-starting-friday/
http://whosnews.usaweekend.com/2010/03/james-marsters-adds-pop-to-syfys-caprica-starting-friday/
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
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I was actually inspired to write a Spuffy drabble based on the Caprica episode. We never saw Barnabus in the sun!
I watched with a terrible headache, I'm afraid. All the jerky camera movement made it worse. Other than that, I really liked JM's performance. Anyone find his two little bits on You Tube yet?
In the interview nmcil posted above, James says his son and niece aren't interested in seeing him in the shows he has been in. Someday when they're older, I'm sure they'll be awed by his brilliance, but at this point, I think maybe it is good they don't want to see some of them. Buffy season 6 isn't something I think is appropriate for a kid his son's age (especially knowing it is his dad doing that stuff!!), and I bet he would find the scene in Caprica where his dad looks like he is bleeding from the self-infliced barbed wire very disturbing. And it doesn't sound like James particularly wants them to see it all either--maybe just the opposite at this point in their lives.
Here is JM with that great hair in the mid season finale of Caprica - You can see the large original large size over at my flickr page.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nmcil/4478987545/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nmcil/4478987545/sizes/l/
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Mar 31 2010 11:03 pm #23TammyDevil666
I'm really not liking the hair.
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Apr 01 2010 12:18 am #24The Enemy of Reality
Hee... I like it. It's a bit too puffy, but I think it goes well with the whole unkempt rogue terrorist image. I loved his scenes in the last epi... we got quite a lot of footage of James and he was as gorgeous as ever. ;) I loved the lines (paraphrasing): "Welcome to the deep end, little one. It's always deeper than you think." and "You wanna be a terrorist? Let's see some terror." Why don't they ever make him a regular or a lead on a TV show?? He's got many fans that would love to watch him have his own series for a change instead of showing up for a few minutes.
Apr 01 2010 12:40 am #25TammyDevil666
Because for the most part, he always plays the villain, and bad guys never tend to stick around for too long. They either get killed, or locked up.
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Apr 01 2010 01:25 am #26The Enemy of Reality
Except for Spike. ;) But yeah, he always plays villians that are disposable, which sucks becuase he would make a great lead IMO. He's got both charisma and talent to pull it off. If Joss had done Spike TV show or even a film, I don't doubt it would have had many fans. It's too late to do it now though. It makes me frustrated to see him play in films like Dragonball, which doesn't showcase his talent to its fullest extent... plus, it sucked... I only watched the parts with James in them. After Spike, Barnabas is probably the role I like him the most in. Which roles did you guys like him in, besides Spike?
Apr 01 2010 01:39 am #27TammyDevil666
Honestly, I haven't really liked him in anything else. A lot of his roles are the same, I would like to see him play something completely different.
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Apr 01 2010 03:36 am #28slaymesoftly
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I thought James was amazing last week. This is far and away the best character he's had since Spike. Of the ones I've seen, anyway. And he was hot - scarily evil, dangerous and hot. The hair goes with the whole scruffy look. I thought it was great.
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Apr 01 2010 04:33 am #29coalitiongirl
I liked him as Brainiac in Smallville- but that was before I watched BtVS. And only then did I understand why none of my friends who were BtVS fans liked him in that role... :D I did like him as Captain John on Torchwood, though- he was fairly Spike-like there. In fact, I've read somewhere that that role was tailor-made for him, as was the Smallville one. I think that might be why he seems so typecast.
Apr 01 2010 05:22 am #30Scarlet Ibis
I absolutely LOVE him in this role, and how different it is.
My only problem is that I have absolutely no desire whatsoever to watch this show...none. Unless it somehow converted into the Barnabus Show or something, which I don't think will happen.
<--wants to see James play a sociopath on Law & Order: SVU.
My only problem is that I have absolutely no desire whatsoever to watch this show...none. Unless it somehow converted into the Barnabus Show or something, which I don't think will happen.
<--wants to see James play a sociopath on Law & Order: SVU.
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Scarlet Ibis -
You mind letting us know why you have no interest in Caprica - I love the series.
You mind letting us know why you have no interest in Caprica - I love the series.
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Apr 01 2010 08:34 am #32TammyDevil666
I really like the show, and would probably be watching it even if James wasn't involved. I definitely don't love his character.
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Apr 01 2010 01:30 pm #33Always_jbj
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I wouldn't watch Caprica if it wasn't for JM--there is not one person in the show I feel any empathy for, they're actually all really annoying.
James is very good in it, but I can't help seeing shades of Spike in Barnabus... kind of a cross between Season 2 Spike and Crazy in the basement Spike. LOL
James is very good in it, but I can't help seeing shades of Spike in Barnabus... kind of a cross between Season 2 Spike and Crazy in the basement Spike. LOL
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James does great fanatics, doesn't he, and I have to say I loved the hair. When he did Love Letters last November it was deeply moving, but sadly we don't get the opportunity to see him doing anything different on TV.
No, none of them are interested in the slightest. In general, kids care about what happens after you come back from the office. They don’t care that much about the office itself. Sullivan was interested to see me play Buzz Aldrin and the cowboy, because they were both heroes. When I got Torchwood, I gave him a call and I said, "Dude! I’m playing this time agent, man! I’ve got two guns, a sword and a time wristwatch that lets me go back and forward in time at will. It’s so cool." And he goes, "Dad, do you win?" I’m like, "What?" And he goes, "At the end of the episode, do you win or do you get your butt kicked like always?" "Well, I’ve got to play the villain so yeah, I get my butt kicked." He’s like, "Alright. What else do you have to talk about?" He doesn’t want to see me do evil. He wants me to save people.
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Apr 01 2010 05:26 pm #36The Enemy of Reality
How could I have forgotten Torchwood? I loved him on that show... very similar to Spike except his character on Torchwood was far from monogamous. lol That gay kiss between him and Jack was so damn HOT.
Admittedly, I started to watch Caprica just because James was supposed to be in it, but then I started to like it. Sure I'm not crazy in love with all the characters and I don't really like Zoe, but I'm enjoying the plot and the premise of virtual world and the moral questions it raises... is it really alright to engage in murder when it's not 'real'? I also like the whole religion theme and the differences of belief of both Clarice and Barnabus... what makes him dangerous is that he's truly convinced he's doing the right thing and doesn't hesitate to use any means necessary to achieve what he wants.
Admittedly, I started to watch Caprica just because James was supposed to be in it, but then I started to like it. Sure I'm not crazy in love with all the characters and I don't really like Zoe, but I'm enjoying the plot and the premise of virtual world and the moral questions it raises... is it really alright to engage in murder when it's not 'real'? I also like the whole religion theme and the differences of belief of both Clarice and Barnabus... what makes him dangerous is that he's truly convinced he's doing the right thing and doesn't hesitate to use any means necessary to achieve what he wants.
Your not suppose to like any of the characters thus far - Just how crazy it is that thus far, just like with Spike, one of the characters that is becoming so popular is Sam, the assassin - that was a great scene when his brother asked him how he can kill people - his answer, that he has to see it all as a game - reminded me of Angelus and his "it all about the art" and depending on the viewer, each character will be interpreted differently.
While some people will say that teenagers are not really interested in the political and religious dynamics of a culture, the fact is that the young people who are interested and influenced by these powerful forces in human societies can be easily manipulated by adults that they see as role models. The young of any social order and the vessels for the preceding generation - the young of any society can either change that society, for good or bad.
Lacy and how she is played upon by all the external forces around her is a great example - she falls totally into the hands of the fanatic but the force that is moving her is primarily her great friend Zoe and the guilt and devotion that she feels for her. And Barnabas had indeed taken her to the ultimate depth - the choice of having to sacrifice her friends and loved ones and her morality, the very thing that STO is suppose to offer, in-order to save those whom she loves. Again, a great parallel to the Buffy-Faith-Angel/Angelus moral questions.
James Marsters, IMO, is doing a wonderful interpretation and performance with Barnabus - there is a big difference between his Spike and Barnabus. It could be the personal perspective of how the viewer accepts religions in their society - those viewers who sees it as one of the most destructive forces in human society will see Barnabus as the manifestation of a horrendous dark force of human nature and its awesome power over human societies. Barnabus is the opposite side of Maggie Walsh, the man of Faith creating the same level of horrors as her Man/Woman of the Secular - and both seeing their "truths" as justification for all the destruction they bring into the world.
I really like what the creators are doing with the Caprica world -
While some people will say that teenagers are not really interested in the political and religious dynamics of a culture, the fact is that the young people who are interested and influenced by these powerful forces in human societies can be easily manipulated by adults that they see as role models. The young of any social order and the vessels for the preceding generation - the young of any society can either change that society, for good or bad.
Lacy and how she is played upon by all the external forces around her is a great example - she falls totally into the hands of the fanatic but the force that is moving her is primarily her great friend Zoe and the guilt and devotion that she feels for her. And Barnabas had indeed taken her to the ultimate depth - the choice of having to sacrifice her friends and loved ones and her morality, the very thing that STO is suppose to offer, in-order to save those whom she loves. Again, a great parallel to the Buffy-Faith-Angel/Angelus moral questions.
James Marsters, IMO, is doing a wonderful interpretation and performance with Barnabus - there is a big difference between his Spike and Barnabus. It could be the personal perspective of how the viewer accepts religions in their society - those viewers who sees it as one of the most destructive forces in human society will see Barnabus as the manifestation of a horrendous dark force of human nature and its awesome power over human societies. Barnabus is the opposite side of Maggie Walsh, the man of Faith creating the same level of horrors as her Man/Woman of the Secular - and both seeing their "truths" as justification for all the destruction they bring into the world.
I really like what the creators are doing with the Caprica world -
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Apr 02 2010 12:03 am #38slaymesoftly
Moderator
Can't believe I forgot about John on TW - but that was to some extent just Spike in a uniform. This character is himself. And, yes, I liked him as Brainiac, but didn't like Smallwood enough to keep watching it, even if James was going be on again. I think I saw most of the Brainiac shows that season, but nothing since then.
I am not a minion of Evil...
I am upper management.
I am upper management.
Same for me - I watched the Brianic episodes, and not even all of them - missed many of the last ones he did. I simply could not sit through all the Clark-Lana angst lovers - That character was one of the most boring TV characters I ever tried to watched -
Can't understand how that series has been on so many years and shows like Firefly never found a large enough audience, same thing seems to be happening with Caprica. I guess it's my long interest in how the religions function as such a powerful force in human social structures that connected with me straight away.
Can't understand how that series has been on so many years and shows like Firefly never found a large enough audience, same thing seems to be happening with Caprica. I guess it's my long interest in how the religions function as such a powerful force in human social structures that connected with me straight away.
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Apr 02 2010 03:04 am #40coalitiongirl
Hm... I watched the early seasons, but the Bangel Clana was too much for me- so I skipped ahead to S8, after Lana's phased off the show, and it's greatly improved since. Though I do seem to be in the minority, I'm very glad that it's on the air. It can't hold a candle to Firefly, of course... :( I started Caprica, but I haven't found it that engaging yet. I'll probably still watch through the JM episodes, though.
No, coalitiongirl, I know a whole website of Clana haters. Of course they're Chloe/Lex shippers. LOL
Apr 02 2010 06:07 am #42TammyDevil666
It's Clark/Lois for me, all the way, that's just how it's supposed to be, and I'm glad we're finally getting more with them. Getting rid of Lana and Lex has made things more interesting for me, but I still don't know what the hell is going on half the time. I am amazed this show has lasted so long, though, and that it was picked up for a tenth season. It's so not fair that it lasted longer than Buffy.
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Apr 02 2010 09:05 am #43CM
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The original showrunners and Lana leaving Smallville has been the best thing for the show - Clark finally gets to grow up instead of being stuck in high school drama. Clois has always been the end goal for me (Superman fan since age 3), and I love the new Chloe/Oliver stuff. Zod is quite entertaining this season, too. I'm happy the show is back this Friday. The show stays on because the CW can't afford to let it go, yet. It was supposed to end the same season the Writer's Strike happened, but since they didn't have the proper time to do that, it got renewed. But season 8 had new life from the new changes, and ratings went up.....and fans are still sticking with it on Fridays enough to keep it higher rated than anything else the CW had put on that night.
James/Brainiac was in season 5 and season 7.
James/Brainiac was in season 5 and season 7.
Apr 02 2010 02:47 pm #44coalitiongirl
Yes, once Lois was on the scene, it just felt like a long, long wait for Lana to leave- since we all know how it ends (which makes me wonder about the enormous Chloe/Clark fanbase online)... :D At least they played up the Lois-Clark UST well, and for five seasons, which really is a feat! I''m also glad about the Chloe/Oliver- though to me, it seems more like the fanfiction gods have heard our prayers :P than anything too believable...but I guess I'll wait till tonight to make judgments.
What I didn't like about JM in Smallville was how OLD he seemed...even though it came before Torchwood, in which he seems much younger- it breaks my heart. :D Oh, but who could forget the vampire episode, featuring a vampire named Buffy and JM informing Clark that there's no such thing as vampires? Hee. :D
What I didn't like about JM in Smallville was how OLD he seemed...even though it came before Torchwood, in which he seems much younger- it breaks my heart. :D Oh, but who could forget the vampire episode, featuring a vampire named Buffy and JM informing Clark that there's no such thing as vampires? Hee. :D
Apr 02 2010 08:02 pm #45Scarlet Ibis
To me, Caprica is just another series I wouldn't really bother to watch unless James was on there. There is nothing about the show itself that grabs me, which is how I felt about TW (though I find Caprica more interesting than that).
Then again, I did watch Smallville for a time...but that was mostly for Rosenbaum, but now he's gone too.
<--still wishes Espenson would write a Spike screenplay, and get some producers to fund it and someone awesome to direct it.
<--is allowed to dream ;)
Then again, I did watch Smallville for a time...but that was mostly for Rosenbaum, but now he's gone too.
<--still wishes Espenson would write a Spike screenplay, and get some producers to fund it and someone awesome to direct it.
<--is allowed to dream ;)
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What I didn't like about JM in Smallville was how OLD he seemed...even though it came before Torchwood, in which he seems much younger- it breaks my heart.
This is why I wish with all my heart that James Marsters could land a really good leading part in a series or film - as much as his Spike and James Marsters love him, he is now at an age that will make getting parts that link him with younger actors only emphasis his age. And his always getting the evil man characters is nothing but bad for his career. While it keeps him working, in the big picture, he desparately needs to show his great acting skills in other types of roles.
It would be great if he could get a part on an HBO series or film - but he really needs to have the opportunity to display his skills and to play something other than the Dark Evil Figure. I wonder why Joss Whedon, for all his praise of James Marsters' skill as an actor never used him again.
How come my "quote" feature no longer works?
This is why I wish with all my heart that James Marsters could land a really good leading part in a series or film - as much as his Spike and James Marsters love him, he is now at an age that will make getting parts that link him with younger actors only emphasis his age. And his always getting the evil man characters is nothing but bad for his career. While it keeps him working, in the big picture, he desparately needs to show his great acting skills in other types of roles.
It would be great if he could get a part on an HBO series or film - but he really needs to have the opportunity to display his skills and to play something other than the Dark Evil Figure. I wonder why Joss Whedon, for all his praise of James Marsters' skill as an actor never used him again.
How come my "quote" feature no longer works?
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Apr 02 2010 10:56 pm #47slaymesoftly
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James has referred to himself as "a character actor who, with enough powder and paint, can be made to be pretty". I think he has a good grip on what sort of parts he's likely to do well in. Remember his recent mention of being needed when a character had to "pop"? He can do that - come in, play a minor role, and make it "pop". It makes him seem to be on screen more than he actually is sometimes. I think Torchwood probably gave him the most time and lines, but I'll bet if you really looked over those episodes, you'd find it wasn't as much as it seemed. I'm not sure I see him carrying a whole show - certainly not as a romantic lead. He's just, alas, not tall enough. But we know he'd love to have another series and have steady employment that keeps him at home. That's what we should wish for him - regardless of the role.
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I am not a minion of Evil...
I am upper management.
I am upper management.
Thoroughly enjoying Caprica! Also agree with the cts of slaymesoftly regarding steady employment keeping him at home. Family is extremely important when the children are teens.
He does not have to be the Leading Man on a series, but he sure could be great as a regular big character on a series. He could have fit in easily on something like LOST or one of those popular Doctor shows - any good drama. I just think that this "evil guy" is ultimately going to be very bad for him for the simple reason that fairly soon it is going to become "oh he is doing that role again" - even his fans will get tired of seeing that over and over.
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Apr 03 2010 12:24 am #50slaymesoftly
Moderator
He's not always evil. He was a DA on "Lie to Me" and a cop or FBI agent on "Without a Trace". To be honest, I think he is more interesting when he's at least a little bit bad, if not evil. He just plays that so well. At a minimum, he would be at his best as a snarky, sarcastic character. But he needs a show with good writing and directing to show himself off best.
I am not a minion of Evil...
I am upper management.
I am upper management.
Apr 03 2010 01:01 am #51coalitiongirl
Very true. He stands out only in those kind of roles- in the others, he's really just ordinary.
And according to Wikipedia, many of those snarky villains he plays are roles made just for him, or roles where he was the first choice. He was typecast as the "Spike" long ago- but that's not necessarily a bad thing for him, IMHO.
And according to Wikipedia, many of those snarky villains he plays are roles made just for him, or roles where he was the first choice. He was typecast as the "Spike" long ago- but that's not necessarily a bad thing for him, IMHO.
Whatever get him work is good news - I never had a chance to watch that his guest role in "Without a Trace" - did he have a good amount of screen time? I just hope that the H5O gets picked up for a series.
Do you think he would have made a good Harry for Dresden Files?
Do you think he would have made a good Harry for Dresden Files?
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Apr 03 2010 03:53 am #53CM
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Height alone doesn't mean that much. Plenty of movie leads are under 6 foot (Tom Cruise, for one). James didn't start an onscreen career in his 20s like most do....that's an ouch in Hollywood. He'd have more opportunities he could accept if he wasn't a father. Honestly, that's a big reason we don't see him in more stuff, and I LOVE that his kids come first, but the decision to stay in CA does hurt his career some.
Part of the Smallville appearance in season 7 was that Brainiac was sick, so you can't count that against James' looks. There were plenty of pretty shots of him in season 5. SV has excellent lighting and color, always have (helps that they're outside a lot). Tom Welling (Clark Kent) is actually 33 this month (same as SMG), and Justin Hartley is also just turned 33 (though he hasn't had any scenes with James), but Tom's a freak that isn't really aging, yet ;) .
Part of the Smallville appearance in season 7 was that Brainiac was sick, so you can't count that against James' looks. There were plenty of pretty shots of him in season 5. SV has excellent lighting and color, always have (helps that they're outside a lot). Tom Welling (Clark Kent) is actually 33 this month (same as SMG), and Justin Hartley is also just turned 33 (though he hasn't had any scenes with James), but Tom's a freak that isn't really aging, yet ;) .
Nmcil-
He was pretty good in Without a Trace. It's been awhile since I've seen the episodes he's in, but it was pretty good and he had a significant amount of screentime. Not gonna lie though, it took me half an episode to realize it was him- the lack of bleached hair threw me. It was pretty funny actually, out of nowhere I'm like 'Holy crap! That's SPIKE!'...my mom thought I was nuts since I pretty much yelled it outloud. lol
He was pretty good in Without a Trace. It's been awhile since I've seen the episodes he's in, but it was pretty good and he had a significant amount of screentime. Not gonna lie though, it took me half an episode to realize it was him- the lack of bleached hair threw me. It was pretty funny actually, out of nowhere I'm like 'Holy crap! That's SPIKE!'...my mom thought I was nuts since I pretty much yelled it outloud. lol
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Apr 03 2010 04:15 am #55slaymesoftly
Moderator
I think he would have made an excellent Harry. Much better than the actor they put in that role. He didn't fit the physical description of Harry that well, but then neither did the guy who played him. I think James would have done more with the role and it might have been his ticket to a steady job and a starring role. But I think he needs something offbeat like that.
I am not a minion of Evil...
I am upper management.
I am upper management.
Apr 03 2010 02:02 pm #56CM
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*avoids going into rant about sticking to Dresden books in the first place...*
Paul Blackthorne had the height, at least. But the real problem is that they didn't write Harry like Harry, and changed a lot, and book series fans HATE that. I liked the show a lot more until I got a chance to read all the books.......now it doesn't even compare.
A lot of people would like to see James play Marcone.
Paul Blackthorne had the height, at least. But the real problem is that they didn't write Harry like Harry, and changed a lot, and book series fans HATE that. I liked the show a lot more until I got a chance to read all the books.......now it doesn't even compare.
A lot of people would like to see James play Marcone.
The series was very different, but I think that it was starting to get much better as the series progressed - the problem that I always have with a novel to TV or film, is that it never can be like the novels. Not unless the creators and the commercial sponsors are willing to commit weeks and weeks to the project. BBC and A&E are the only stations that are willing to commit to the time and expenditures on a regular basis.
Plus you have to consider that the project for TV or Film are trying to appeal to the non-readers of said books. But without the time and money behind a novel to film, it usually will not work. Take the new Jane Austen film from BBC - mostly they were a big disappointment to the Jane Austen devotees and the major problem was that the films were done without the weeks long treatment that A&E did or the BBC earlier adaptations. The best of the new films was "Little Dorrit" but that film was around 7 1/2 hours.
The creative staff doing novels to TV or film have to get things just right or the audience will be disappointed - and especially so if the viewer loves a the book.
I also watched the show before reading the books - and I did enjoy it but I like the books more. Same for the Blood Ties series
Maybe I can find his episodes online -
Have any recommends for novels to film or TV they thought were effective?
Plus you have to consider that the project for TV or Film are trying to appeal to the non-readers of said books. But without the time and money behind a novel to film, it usually will not work. Take the new Jane Austen film from BBC - mostly they were a big disappointment to the Jane Austen devotees and the major problem was that the films were done without the weeks long treatment that A&E did or the BBC earlier adaptations. The best of the new films was "Little Dorrit" but that film was around 7 1/2 hours.
The creative staff doing novels to TV or film have to get things just right or the audience will be disappointed - and especially so if the viewer loves a the book.
I also watched the show before reading the books - and I did enjoy it but I like the books more. Same for the Blood Ties series
Maybe I can find his episodes online -
Have any recommends for novels to film or TV they thought were effective?
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Apr 03 2010 09:28 pm #58Scarlet Ibis
Yeah, height doesn't mean much in Hollywood. Most actors are short. James is tall next to a lot of those actors, such as Tom Cruise.
I think he could very much pull off the lead of a show, and it doesn't have to be a lead who has a romantic interest. In fact, I think sometimes, that takes away from the story. For instance, I think the excellent show Psych should not make any of Sean's (or Gus' for that matter) romantic interest a focal point of any ep, because to me, it's a whole lot of nobody cares.
I would love to see James as the lead of an Alias type of show, and I think the only thing he'd need is an actor he can play well off of, like Rosenbaum or Boreanaz and have a compelling and funny friend relationship for the main character.
I think he could very much pull off the lead of a show, and it doesn't have to be a lead who has a romantic interest. In fact, I think sometimes, that takes away from the story. For instance, I think the excellent show Psych should not make any of Sean's (or Gus' for that matter) romantic interest a focal point of any ep, because to me, it's a whole lot of nobody cares.
I would love to see James as the lead of an Alias type of show, and I think the only thing he'd need is an actor he can play well off of, like Rosenbaum or Boreanaz and have a compelling and funny friend relationship for the main character.
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Apr 04 2010 03:06 am #59CM
Guest
Yeah, he has chemistry with pretty much anybody and is always said to bring other's game up when they act with him.
(Nice to have you back, Scarlet.)
(Nice to have you back, Scarlet.)
Apr 04 2010 03:11 am #60Scarlet Ibis
Yeah--someone--I think it was Joss--said he brought out the best in David. I can believe it.
<-- <3'ed s5 Angel and Spike (more so than usual).
And thanks Caro :D
I'm trying my best to start making the rounds elsewhere. Next up is LJ...
<-- <3'ed s5 Angel and Spike (more so than usual).
And thanks Caro :D
I'm trying my best to start making the rounds elsewhere. Next up is LJ...
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Marsters and Rosenbaum together, that sounds like a great combination -
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Apr 05 2010 01:40 am #62TammyDevil666
It worked on Smallville, for some reason, I can really see them in a movie together.
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Apr 05 2010 02:42 am #63Scarlet Ibis
Oh, they were amazing together on a Q&A panel at D*C '08. That's why I totally heart them together (Marsters and Rosenbaum).
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Apr 05 2010 03:46 am #64TammyDevil666
Oh, yeah, I was there for that panel, they're hilarious together. Are you going to D*C this year, Scarlet? I'm still debating whether or not I should bother, but luckily I have plenty of time to think about it.
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Apr 05 2010 06:02 am #65Scarlet Ibis
I may not be able to swing it only because I'm supposed to be going to Greece close to the same time...However, if Rosenbaum and James will be there, I just may bust my own ass to do both :P
And if you can, you should totally try to come to the Chicago Wonder Con, cause it's going to be awesome! And yes--I can predict the future now! Lol :P
And if you can, you should totally try to come to the Chicago Wonder Con, cause it's going to be awesome! And yes--I can predict the future now! Lol :P
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Apr 05 2010 06:13 am #66TammyDevil666
Ah, well, that would be a bit more difficult. The only reason I might be able to go to D*C is because it's closer, we're already planning to drive up that weekend to visit my grandfather, anyway. The parents were just going to drop me off at the hotel, and then carry on the rest of the way, but I'll wait a bit to see if there's anyone else going that is of interest to me. If not, I may just decide to visit my grandfather with them instead.
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Aw, you guys are making me jeleous. I live in Canada, and we get like NO cons, except maybe Ontario (I live in New Brunswick and Alberta- neither is going to happen anytime soon). *sigh*
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Apr 05 2010 10:43 pm #68Scarlet Ibis
There's some con coming up in Canada...I think Montreal, around the same time as D*C. Or so my Canadian con buddy mentioned :)
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Apr 09 2010 03:36 am #69CM
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There used to be a con in Toronto every year. Don't know if it's still going.
Greece - would that be for a certain lady's wedding? If so, I'm so jealous!
Greece - would that be for a certain lady's wedding? If so, I'm so jealous!
Great Promo Vid that features JM as Barnabas and Lacy -
http://video.syfy.com/shows/caprica/promos_trailers_6/unvanquished--sneak-peek-2--caprica/v1251935
It looks like the second season is going to be outstanding - Visit the SyFy Home site tons of info on the new season and for those who missed season 1 , it looks like there will be a marathon for season 1 including the pilot before the new season - IMO, they should have run the marathon before, like this weekend, instead of all on one day.
CAPRICA is, IMHO, an outstanding series - If nothing else and you have no interest in the series, help support James Marsters by watching his JM featured vid with the link above. The DVD for season one is coming out October 5
http://video.syfy.com/shows/caprica/promos_trailers_6/unvanquished--sneak-peek-2--caprica/v1251935
It looks like the second season is going to be outstanding - Visit the SyFy Home site tons of info on the new season and for those who missed season 1 , it looks like there will be a marathon for season 1 including the pilot before the new season - IMO, they should have run the marathon before, like this weekend, instead of all on one day.
CAPRICA is, IMHO, an outstanding series - If nothing else and you have no interest in the series, help support James Marsters by watching his JM featured vid with the link above. The DVD for season one is coming out October 5
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
I tried your link, but got the message "Video Not Found". Rats! I really wanted to see it!
I really feel sorry for poor James Marsters - he keeps getting these very short guest appearances - I was very disappointed to see that how little screen time he was given in the series - It is such an outstanding series, in my opinion - what a shame that there is not a larger audience. There is so much friggin crap on TV that has millions watching and a show like Caprica has so few.
You should be able to see this video on the SySy Home Site. If not, you can watch the episode,
You should be able to see this video on the SySy Home Site. If not, you can watch the episode,
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Oct 20 2010 12:42 pm #73slaymesoftly
Moderator
James is rocking his role on Caprica. Just as he did with Spike, who was supposed to be a minor, temporary character, he is using every second of his screen time to showcase his skills. I noticed on the last Smallville he did that he got a "Guest Starring James Marsters" in big print during the credits. When James is a guest star, we need to remember that he isn't going to have a lot of screen time. His job is to play the character, and play it well enough that he gets asked back and/or it generates more roles. Which, if the new series he's shooting takes off, will have given him what he wanted - which is another series in which he has an ongoing part. I doubt we should feel sorry for him; he's working steadily and that's what every actor wants. :)
I am not a minion of Evil...
I am upper management.
I am upper management.
Considering, in terms of years spent trying to get work compared to many other actors, James Marsters has been really fortunate - and he has kept working regularly. I just hope that this new series opportunity will be successful for him - I just love watching him work and I also really enjoyed Kyle Schmid - I am hoping and wish them luck with their pilot.
Think I was looking for his Barnabas role to be longer - but really, the series has 5 primary stories going, not really much room for another long arc with the STO power dynamics. Later on in the series more about the history and power struggles of the STO would add to the series.
Caprica has really good to make it with this season - or SyFy will probably not renew it. I hate to see it go down the way Firefly did.
Think I was looking for his Barnabas role to be longer - but really, the series has 5 primary stories going, not really much room for another long arc with the STO power dynamics. Later on in the series more about the history and power struggles of the STO would add to the series.
Caprica has really good to make it with this season - or SyFy will probably not renew it. I hate to see it go down the way Firefly did.
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Oct 28 2010 01:50 am #75CM
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Caprica is toast. Syfy has announced that the low-rated Battlestar Galactica prequel has been canceled.
“The remaining first run episodes of Caprica – airing Tuesdays at 10/9c – will be removed from the schedule as of next Tuesday, November 2,” said the network in a statement. “These final five episodes of the season will be re-scheduled to air at a to be announced time in the first quarter of 2011, and will conclude the run of the series.”
“We appreciate all the support that fans have shown for Caprica and are very proud of the producers, cast, writers and the rest of the amazing team that has been committed to this fine series,” said Mark Stern, EVP of Original Programming at Syfy. “Unfortunately, despite its obvious quality, Caprica has not been able to build the audience necessary to justify a second season.”
news from Ausiello at EW.com
“The remaining first run episodes of Caprica – airing Tuesdays at 10/9c – will be removed from the schedule as of next Tuesday, November 2,” said the network in a statement. “These final five episodes of the season will be re-scheduled to air at a to be announced time in the first quarter of 2011, and will conclude the run of the series.”
“We appreciate all the support that fans have shown for Caprica and are very proud of the producers, cast, writers and the rest of the amazing team that has been committed to this fine series,” said Mark Stern, EVP of Original Programming at Syfy. “Unfortunately, despite its obvious quality, Caprica has not been able to build the audience necessary to justify a second season.”
news from Ausiello at EW.com
Oct 28 2010 02:20 am #76maryperk
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Well, shoot. I was hoping for JM's return! Oh well. He'll be back on Hawaii 5-0, I'll just have to deal. LOL
Oct 28 2010 05:17 am #77TammyDevil666
That sucks, I really liked the show, with or without James. I guess I knew that it likely wouldn't have a second season, though.
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Oct 28 2010 05:28 am #78TammyDevil666
Okay, now I'm confused. I just saw pictures of James in an episode that hasn't aired yet, I don't remember seeing any of those scenes before. I guess that means he will show up again towards the end. I thought he was done after the explosion?
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Yeah - after that explosion, how was he coming back from that?
Where did you see the photos? could you please post a link. I am so sad to see that this, IMO, outstanding series has been literally yank off the air. How the heck can a show like that 'ghost hunters" thing find a audience and Caprica could never get people to watch. Makes me really wonder about the large audience that BSG had - How can those viewers not have been interested in the story of how the Cylons and Humans developed into the story that BSG told.
I knew it would not make it beyond this season, but to just have them take it off like this, one lousy week's notice - least they could do is allow the remaining episodes to be purchased on itunes - or show them online. TV watching sucks - my shows are now down to 5
Where did you see the photos? could you please post a link. I am so sad to see that this, IMO, outstanding series has been literally yank off the air. How the heck can a show like that 'ghost hunters" thing find a audience and Caprica could never get people to watch. Makes me really wonder about the large audience that BSG had - How can those viewers not have been interested in the story of how the Cylons and Humans developed into the story that BSG told.
I knew it would not make it beyond this season, but to just have them take it off like this, one lousy week's notice - least they could do is allow the remaining episodes to be purchased on itunes - or show them online. TV watching sucks - my shows are now down to 5
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Oct 28 2010 06:10 pm #80TammyDevil666
I found the pictures here: www.gallery.civilizedjames.org/thumbnails.php
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Oct 29 2010 01:29 am #81maryperk
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Well, they didn't show him physically blowing up, so I'd say he had a handcuff key/bobby pin hidden somewhere close by.
Oct 29 2010 11:11 am #82CM
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BSG had action and peril. Space action always does well.
SyFy is working on a BSG prequel that's in the Cylon war, with a younger Adama, which will address that issue.
What I've read is that a lot of people didn't connect with Caprica's characters enough to want to watch a more intellectual show in the BSG universe. And then, there's SyFy's stupid model of splitting seasons in half by several months. Serial airing keeps people watching every week....they can rely on the show being there, and therefore remember it's on.
SyFy is working on a BSG prequel that's in the Cylon war, with a younger Adama, which will address that issue.
What I've read is that a lot of people didn't connect with Caprica's characters enough to want to watch a more intellectual show in the BSG universe. And then, there's SyFy's stupid model of splitting seasons in half by several months. Serial airing keeps people watching every week....they can rely on the show being there, and therefore remember it's on.
Oct 31 2010 06:53 am #83Tammy
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Okay, never mind about James coming back. I think those pictures are from deleted scenes.
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