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Apr 30 2010 04:44 am   #1peck
Help!  Spike went out of town and came back to Buffy's house where she is dressed up like some harem girl and strarts coming on to him.  She is being controlled by a collar, and the man who did it has Dawn also.  Any bells ringing?   Peck

Peck

Apr 30 2010 05:34 am   #2coalitiongirl
 Dream Girls by Kantayra?


HERE is her author page on Elysian Fields. You can find it there.
 
Apr 30 2010 05:36 am   #3Judi 
Is a very good fic by Kantayra "Dream Girls" :)
Apr 30 2010 06:58 am   #4nmcil
Thanks for posting the link - it has been a long time since I read any of her works - it will be nice to read work again from one of the outstanding and long time FF writers.  Is she still actively writing Buffyverse?
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Apr 30 2010 12:30 pm   #5peck
Thank you so much!!!  I had was having a major brain lapse(haha) with this story.  Off to read thanks again coalitiongirl!

Peck

May 01 2010 06:22 am   #6ladycat713 
The answer nmcil is no. In fact I think she took down her personal site but thankfully left her stories up at any other sites they were on so we still get to enjoy them.
May 01 2010 06:26 am   #7ladycat713 
also here is a link to her site on the wayback machine in case there are any stories you can't find archived on other sites (I think ther's a few) . Her announcement of her retirement from the Buffy fandom is on the page date Jan 01 2006.

http://web.archive.org/web/20060219045648/http://www.angelfire.com/me4/kantayra/buffyindex.html
May 01 2010 07:40 pm   #8nmcil
Question for the writers - why take away your FF work if you decide that you no longer have interest in writing those characters?  Why not do even something as simple as a generic site where you can archive your FF work.  I can understand if you are are seriously pursuing a professional career and you would not want your professional name connected at all with FF - but otherwise, why take your work away from the fans that so appreciate your work and continue to enjoy what you have created?

If you don't want the expense of paying for a site, there are still many free websites available, but I would personally go with something like a google site or the yahoo or proboards where all you have to do is post your text.  Just curious.  For me, as a visual artist I like having my images in many places online - I do however separate my Fine Art name and site  from my pop culture sites.  I don't do it because I think that one is better than the other, but simply because there are so many narrowed minded people who would make a distinction - so I do understand the "going professional" concerns, but once I decide that I am no longer interested in The Buffyverse, I would still keep my site online as part of what happened in the Fan history of the series -

Thank for posting the link - Would you please add that to our Way Back Machine Resource thread -
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
May 01 2010 08:11 pm   #9Niori
Okay, I have to ask, do you have to take down your fanfics if you're trying to get original stuff published? Everyone seems to do it. But seriously, if I ever get around trying to get my original stuff published, there's no way in hell I'm taking down any of my ff. Do you know how much effort goes into those things?
So again, are you supposed to take them down or is it just a choice?
~ Niori ~
May 01 2010 08:21 pm   #10ladycat713 
I can understand if someone takes down a specific story if they're reworking it into an original story.
May 01 2010 08:33 pm   #11slaymesoftly
It depends, Niori. It would be an author's choice, I think, unless he or she had a contract with a particular publisher that said fanfic was a nono. I can't imagine that, though. It seems unlikely and probably illegal. However, if you had spent your early years writing vampire porn, and were now a recognized and well-paid author of a totally different kind of work, I can see where you'd maybe not want the old stuff to be seen or identified as yours.  That's one reason. Another might well be that the fanfic wasn't very good (is spite of what the readers of it might think) and someone who has improved a lot (with the help of a good editor maybe) might well not want to be reminded of how bad he/she used to be. Or to let new readers/fans discover how bad.  That is another possible reason.  Another reason is the one above. Many writers make that move to original fic by reworking an old fanfic. No publisher is going to want to pay money for something that is almost exactly the same as something readers can find for free - just with different names for the main characters.  Those are just three reasons right off the top of my head. There may be more. Oh, here's another one - sometimes an author who's written a lot of fic that is very NC17, very graphically violent, very kinky, etc. has gone into a line of work (teaching, for instance) that makes it a very bad idea to have something like those fics out in public where they could be discovered and connected to the author in RL.  I suspect there are as many reasons for removing old fic as there are authors. Everyone has their own idea about what they want to do with it if/when they leave a fandom.
I am not a minion of Evil...
I am upper management.
May 02 2010 08:56 pm   #12nmcil
All good points slaymesoftly, especially with the teaching and public figure - especially in today's world and how there is so much snopping that takes place online - I can see how anyone in public education at any level would have to be very careful - anyplace that you have to give much personal id info would always have to be a problem - Anne Rice did not use her general public author name when she did her erotica novels. 

What are the levels of identify safeguards available to FF writers?
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
May 02 2010 09:56 pm   #13slaymesoftly
I suspect, if someone really wanted to find you, they could. Obviously, most of us use pen names of one sort or another, as well as online names for our web identities. However, unless you are sticking completely to things that are free and don't require any information about you, your personal information is out there somewhere.  Even if it's just an archive or LJ, your computer's address is recorded and can be traced back to you. And, if you have a paid LJ account or a web site, then your personal information is on record somewhere and can be found.  But, that all presupposes that someone from fandom is going out looking for you. Or, that someone in RL has decided to try to track you down online.  Hence, in my case, being very wary of letting people in RL know what I do for a hobby - and wary of letting people I only know online as readers of my fic know who I am in RL. I know of at least one very popular and well-known author who, when she finished college and changed careers to go into teaching, took down all her fics from everywhere she could so as not to risk being discovered in RL by students or their parents. It's just something anyone who works in a sensitive field has to think about. What are the possible RL repercussions of being "outed" as someone who writes violent vampire porn?  Consequences could range from embarrassment to loss of job/career.
And, yes, even in the RW, authors may use different pen names for different genres. Sometimes it's just to build a fanbase for the different types of fic, and sometimes it's to avoid hurting one genre by letting it be known that you are writing in another, less respected, one.  Those other names rarely seem to remain a secret very long, though...
I am not a minion of Evil...
I am upper management.
May 02 2010 11:47 pm   #14nmcil

Being in public and private educational fields at any level, you would have to be very careful - I know that there are many FF writers that are in that profession and I totally appreciate that they are so passionate about writing and doing work with the Buffyverse that they do put their work online.  

With my gallery site, I only allow work that is  suitable for general public  - I thought about adding work that was "adult only" and decided against it

Wonder how the comic book retailers deal with material like that of the latest issue of Buffy?  There was nothing different from what was presented in that issue than one would expect to see in porn magazine and "adult only" films. 

I don't remember at all if the Buffy Season Six had any Parental Warning announcements - I find it so interesting that for all the "Buffy and Dirty Disgusting Sex with Dirty Disgusting Bad Boy Friend Model and Abusive Relationship" that it is only with her "True Love and Soul Mate"  that the character is used with such explicit sexual scenes.  And it is only again with a person who really loves her and is totally devoted to her that we see Buffy's utmost brutality in the "Dead Things" alley scene. 

 

” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
May 09 2010 04:57 pm   #15no_promises
I'm not sure if this is the correct place to ask, but I'll try anyway.
I can't remember the name of a fic I read that I want to read again. 
In it Buffy actually saves Spike from a fire by dragging him to safety,  She then continues to watch out for him (bring him food, etc). 
She does all this because when Angelus was torturing her Spike tried to help her out.
I know that is pretty vague, but I hope someone can figure it out by that.   Thanks.
May 09 2010 07:26 pm   #16:P 
This sounds like Loves Lost by Slaymesoftly, found here on BSV. It's the first part of a series and is really good.
May 09 2010 11:46 pm   #17slaymesoftly
Hee! Once again, when I know one, somebody beats me to it. Thanks.
I am not a minion of Evil...
I am upper management.
May 13 2010 07:39 pm   #18legen 
this question is for writers that have tons of fics. do you ever see a "do you know this story" post, and think, man that sounds really fimiliar, before you realize that, hey, you wrote it?
May 13 2010 11:10 pm   #19maryperk
Hehe, usually I think, "hey, that's mine.  Wonder who's gonna tell them that?'.   
May 15 2010 12:31 am   #20Spikez_tart
Legen - I did have a moment where I was looking at the stuff I posted and thought - What story is this?  Did I write this?  hee hee
If we want her to be exactly she'll never be exactly I know the only really real Buffy is really Buffy and she's gone' who?
May 15 2010 06:27 pm   #21slaymesoftly
Yup, happens sometimes.  Usually if it's vague and could fit a number of fics.  If it's real specific, I usually know if it's one of mine.
I am not a minion of Evil...
I am upper management.
May 16 2010 01:44 pm   #22Caro Mio 
I've never seen someone looking for one of my stories, so....nope!
May 16 2010 02:37 pm   #23Cordykitten
I've never seen someone looking for one of my stories, so....nope!
I did  :)
I was telling coalitiongirl for her rec-post about the story where Buffy was the slayer but after dying wasn't any longer but could maybe become a guardian. Took me a while to remember the title (stupid memory!), I looked through TSR stories but I've found it! One of my favs.
Hope it will be continued some day.
May 16 2010 07:48 pm   #24nmcil
Speaking of looking - CaroMio

are you the same author that wrote that novel  - think the title is Seven Years in the Desert - or something like that - I started reading that such a long time ago and loved it but lost of it as it was a WIP

Anyone have info on that work and if it was ever completed - I loved the portion that I did read -
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
May 16 2010 10:14 pm   #25Caro Mio 
I have nothing by that title, nope. My fics list is at the top of my LJ: http://caromiofic.livejournal.com/
May 16 2010 10:17 pm   #26Caro Mio 
Cordykitten - Ah! What If I'm Not the Slayer?  Yes, I do mean to continue it. My original work has taken much more time than I expected in the last year, so I haven't gotten to update as much as I want to.
May 16 2010 10:18 pm   #27Caro Mio 
Cordykitten - Ah! What If I'm Not the Slayer?  Yes, I do mean to continue it. My original work has taken much more time than I expected in the last year, so I haven't gotten to update as much as I want to.
May 18 2010 01:06 am   #28Cordykitten

@ Caro Mio - yes, this story from TSR. Good news that it will be continued at some point (or another WIP).

@ nmcil There is a story called "Seven Years in the Desert" by Caro. It is up till ch. 15 at the Sandlot + still WIP
www.the-sandlot.com/fic.php But I fear the site is down at the moment but I sent a message. Maybe the site needs to be renewed (but I didn't read something in my Yahoo Groups).

May 18 2010 01:38 am   #29Caro Mio 
What If is posted here at the BSV, too, love. :)
May 19 2010 08:24 am   #30nmcil
Thanks both of you for the info on Caro's work - was hoping that  this work had been developed more - guess not.  Another one of the Buffyverse stories that had the potential to be very good.
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.