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Most emotional Spuffy scenes.

Jul 28 2007 09:22 am   #1Guest

Just wondering what people think the most emotional scenes between Spike and Buffy. I love the scene in Beneath You where Spike first tells her about his soul.

Jul 28 2007 11:56 am   #2spikeslovebite

My pick is from Season 6, The Bargaining Part II, when Spike realizes that it isn't the Buffybot coming down the stairs to meet him. The look of total awe on his face makes me shiver...even after seeing it a bazillion times.

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Jul 28 2007 12:18 pm   #3Always_jbj

There are just so many wonderful, emotional scenes...but like Tam, I'd have to say Spike's face when Buffy comes down those stairs is just GAH! Oh, and also when she reinvites him at the end of S5.

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Jul 28 2007 03:05 pm   #4Eowyn315

Buffy coming down the stairs is actually from After Life (not Bargaining) - which I think is one of the best emotional Buffy/Spike episodes. There's that scene, plus the "every night I save you" scene, and then the end when she tells him she was in heaven.

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Jul 28 2007 03:28 pm   #5Scarlet Ibis

I'd say... hmm, the coming down the stairs scene, well, it seemed to me to be more emotional for him than her in that second (what with her fiddling to cover herself from him at first- you know with the shirt buttons, and hiding her hands from him), but I love it cause he does it brilliantly.  But I'd say when they're sitting across from each other, and she lets him check/hold her hands, cause I interpret that as she finally letting him in, and take care of her.  And you can still see that incredible look of awe on his face.

Aww...

Plus, any scene with a close up of JM looking emotional hits me right in the ticker, it does.

And in "As You Were," if you slow it down, you can see the moment Spike's heart breaks... (and yeah, I kinda stole that from The Simpsons, and you don't need to slow it down to see that).

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Jul 28 2007 03:51 pm   #6Immortal Beloved

Well, there are so many.  The church in "Beneath You" is my favorite scene from the series, period, but I'm not sure if it's my favorite emotional Spuffy.  

Oh, wait, the question was MOST emotional, not favorite emotional. :-P So, yes, church in "Beneath You" is definitely the most emotional.  I can't help but to cry during that no matter how many times I see it, usually when Spike starts talking about Angel (the thought of Angel always puts ME in a bad mood :-P), and they cut to Buffy's face realizing that Spike has a soul.  By the time they get to "Can we rest?" I'm bawling.

I guess the penultimate emotional would be a tie between Spike's hell-of-a-woman speech where Buffy gets that panicky look on her face when Spike says he loves her and the fire hands in "Chosen" right at the point where you can see Buffy's face as she realizes (waaaaay too freakin' late) that she really does love him.  

Ooo!  Next, I'd have to say the look on Buffy's face when she rescues Spike from the first.  Man, that girl was always giving him I-love-you LOOKS.  Why the hell couldn't she have gotten the words out sooner! :-P

I do love the 147 days, holding hands across from each other in "Afterlife."  It doesn't make me cry, but there are other emotions there besides crying emotions.  That might be my favorite Spuffy moment that isn't tied to badness.

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Jul 28 2007 03:58 pm   #7Scarlet Ibis

Ooh- totally forgot the rescuing him from the cave scene and he realizes it's really her, and not the first screwing with him.  I think that's the best "emotional Buffy face" I've ever seen when it comes to her and Spike.

I have to go watch that...

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Jul 28 2007 04:05 pm   #8Immortal Beloved

Yes, Scarlet.  BEST emotional Buffy face :-D  I think that she knows that she loves him right then, but she's just (still) not ready to do anything about it.

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Jul 28 2007 05:06 pm   #9FetchingMadScientist

"Beneath You" is a close second to Spike's breakdown in "Gift."  I know, it has nothing to do with Buffy, all she does is lie there, but the look on Spike's face when he realizes she's not getting up, and his weeping afterward is just gut-wrenching to me.

I cry every single time I see it.

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Jul 28 2007 05:18 pm   #10slaymesoftly

What everybody else said.  Hee!

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Jul 28 2007 05:50 pm   #11chlarkspuffy

Most emotional Spuffy scene for me is the one from Beneath You. I have to confess though, the bathroom scene would be the most emotional, but I find it too bloody painful to be emotional, if that makes any sense? Now, the best emotional scene, in my opinion is the scene from Touched.

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Jul 28 2007 06:18 pm   #12spikeslovebite

Eowyn- thanks for correcting that for me (Afterlife, I mean) *hugz*

Is everyone else making it a point to watch all these scenes again like I am? LMAO


Jul 28 2007 07:28 pm   #13slaymesoftly

No - I totally do not have my DVS boxes spread out all over the floor so that I can easily find the epis I need.  Because that would just be...silly...and messy...and...oh! There it is!   LOL

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Jul 28 2007 09:25 pm   #14pfeifferpack

ITA with all the ones mentioned so far.  Actually S7 had tons of these moments (good and sad emotions)....like Buffy checking on Spike first in First Date when the demo girl gutted Xander.  Earlier in that episode when Spike and Buffy meet in the hall and you 

SEE Spike utterly lost as she walks away oblivious to his lie about not having

 false hopes any longer.  The scene in that basement when Spike wants Buffy to stake him and she realizes he's been played (and, I think, realizes she CAN'T stake him even if he "needs it").  Then in her basement with the "I believe in you" speech from her.  GOD that season (after he got out of the school basement) was filled with moments, most non verbal, where you could FEEL the emotions roiling off the screen!

I know there are more but I didn't think these had been mentioned.

 

THE most...ITA with the church scene in Beneath You.  James should have been handed an Emmy for that alone.

 

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Jul 28 2007 10:33 pm   #15Scarlet Ibis

Yeah, James *should've* gotten an Emmy... was he even nominated?  That entire show got the brush off, I'm sure.

Earlier in that episode when Spike and Buffy meet in the hall and you  SEE Spike utterly lost as she walks away oblivious to his lie about not having false hopes any longer.

Aha, Giles!  Spike was prepared to let Buffy go, and even offered to leave later in that same episode, but its Buffy who keeps pulling him back...

(sorry, it's just that in LMPTM, he said that Spike didn't have the sense or decency to leave Buffy like Angel did, and he was just oh, so very wrong.  It always kinda bugged me.)

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Jul 28 2007 11:52 pm   #16GoldenBuffy

I agree with what everyone said. And I'd liek to point out Giles really pissed me off in S7.

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Jul 29 2007 07:12 am   #17Guest

Nope, no Emmy nominations for the actors. The show got some minor ones, and won a couple for makeup/special effests, but that's it.

I can't not cry at Beneath You, either. Most of those S7 points, I'm tearing up because Spike is going through so much, not because of Buffy's stuff there. (The scene where she rescues him is the only one I thought SMG actualy brought her A game for.) Seeing Spike hurting = me tearing up or at least feeling that heart squeeze thing in empathy. I cried through multiple viewings of The Gift because of Spike at the end, too.

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Jul 29 2007 08:51 am   #18goddess_hecate

I have to go with the scene where she throws the money at him in Fool for Love.  The look on his face breaks my heart every time.  I have to admit that I hate her just a little bit for being so clueless and bitchy. 

(Sidenote: I saw Moulin Rouge for the first time AFTER I saw FFLand I started crying when he throws the money at her because it reminded me of that scene.)

Jul 29 2007 04:32 pm   #19Immortal Beloved

Gah!  I totally forgot about the hallway scene in "First Date."  My heart breaks when Buffy walks past Spike after he just gave her what appears to be a rehearsed-in-his-head little speech about no cozy little crypt for two, and he gets that far-off look on his face as he leans back in Buffy's direction, just clinging to that last frayed shred of hope...Crap :crap: I'm crying now, and I'm not even watching it :-(

Great point about Giles, Scarlet!  I hadn't even ever picked up on that before.  Spike was willing to leave for Buffy, but she did keep pulling him back all season long: she lets him stay in "Beneath You" when he shows up at her house and Spike says that he'll leave if she wants him to; she gets him out of the school basement so that he won't stay crazy; she doesn't just off him when Holden/Knox ( ;-) ) tells her that Spike sired him--she looks for proof; and when she does have proof, she STILL won't kill him even though he asks her to, then she brings him into her home; she tells him she's not ready for him to go when he says that he should leave in "First Date;" she busts her ass to kill the übervamp to rescue him from the First; she gets everybody to help de-trigger him; she pretty much tells Giles to f-off when he says she depends on Spike too much; she totally takes Spike's side during the let's-kill-Spike conspiracy; AND, most importantly, even though she oh so stupidly kisses Angel, she sends him packing, and goes home to Spike.  Buffy repeatedly is all about Spike--even if it means choosing him over others--in Season 7.  So (and this is totally off topic), I just don't see how she could not have believed the "I love you," in "Chosen."  

Okay, my diatribe is done.  Sorry to hijack the thread :-)

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Jul 29 2007 05:02 pm   #20Spikez_tart

Good Hijack Immortal

All the scenes above are great.  How about when Buffy confronts Spike in his closet/bedroom at Xander's apartment, to find out what Spike has been up to and if he's hunting again?  The whole - not the chip, it's my soul and Spike accusing Buffy of being jealous rips you apart.  Great stuff.

IMHO the S7 scenes between Buffy and Spike are so great that I don't even mind that the rest of the show sucked except for the Robin Wood story line. 

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Jan 15 2009 05:42 am   #21Guest
The scene in "As You Were" where Buffy calls Spike "William" and he realizes that she is really breaking up with him breaks my heart.  Also, when Buffy beats Spike almost unconsious in the alley in "Dead Things".  One of the most emotional scenes for me is in "Entropy" when Xander confronts Spike and Spike is willing to let Xander kill him.  It shows that Spike has been broken done completely by Buffy, foreshadowing what happens in the next episode.
Jan 15 2009 06:29 am   #22nmcil
My Entire Series Favorite is the church scene in "Beneath You" - that is the most emotional scene and most dramatic and intense scene - another reason that it moves me so much is the brutal honesty and intelligence of the scene - all things have been stripped to the essentials of his life and their relationship - that last line even now stills has such a strong impact on me -

And I also have to go with their other brutal gut wrenching scene, again in the alley from "Fool For Love" - James Marsters literally swallows all his pain and sorrow and anger - all that emotional explosion he takes right into his body -  one of James Marsters supreme Spike moments -

There are so many great and intense emotional scenes with Spike and Buffy - another which does not get as much recognition, IMO, is there bedroom scene exchange after Riley finds them - another stripped down to essentials with his lines about how she sees him/ how he sees himself and how she always comes back to use him -

For a Beautiful Buffy-Spike Wonderful Magical Moment - when she rescues him from Buffy ala The First -
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Jan 15 2009 04:13 pm   #23Legen
the scene in FFL is one of my faves, but i'll have to say that one of the most heart wrenching moments, for me any ways, was in ,and i can't recall the ep., but the one where dru shows up and he chains her up. when he follows her home and trys to follow her into her house and then hits the barrier. the look on his face...i might tear up now thinking about it. my fav two sided emotional scene would have to be when he comes to see her at dmp, and she's all like ' don't make this harder then it is.' or something like that. he can only make it harder if she'd rather be with him, is my opinion. but i'm an odd ball like that.
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Jan 15 2009 07:31 pm   #24ya_lublyu_tebya
I have to confess though, the bathroom scene would be the most emotional, but I find it too bloody painful to be emotional,

I'm going to go with chlarkspuffy. The bathroom scene is VERY emotional and raw. Possibly one of the most emotional scenes from an acting perspective too. :-( And all that pain just makes it more emotional...
Jan 16 2009 01:33 am   #25Guest
One scene that hasn't been mentioned and never fails to get to me is Spike and Buffy's oh-so-awkward post-breakup conversation and Xander and Anya's wedding.  Every word exchanged just...kills me.

"It's nice to watch you be happy.  For them, even.  I don't see it a lot, but you, ah, you glow."
"Not that it changes anything, but if you're wiildly curious...yeah, it hurts."
"But it hurts, yeah?"  "Yeah."  "Thanks."  "...You're welcome."

Gah!  Kills me.

Oh, oh!  I almost forgot, also Spike's monologue to Buffy right after she's come back from the dead, sitting together in his crypt.  The little quiver in his voice as he tells her, "I'd do something different, faster, more clever, you know?  Dozens of times, lots of different ways.  Every night I save you."  That whisper at the end destroys me.
Jan 16 2009 01:33 am   #26Guest
Crap, I am apparently logged out.  That was me.

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Jan 17 2009 10:02 pm   #27Scarlet Ibis
First let me say, this isn't a knee jerk reaction post but--

you like to see how buffy got fuck rough by spike and how she liked you didn´t care about the most emotional escene you perverts.
Yes, this is exactly why Spike was so popular in the seasons before they started having sex.  But you know what really makes me emotional?  Seeing how much Angel loved Cordelia.  How much she made him happy and laugh.  Yep--that was "the one" for Angel.  The one he really wanted.  The one who would have given him "perfect happiness" again as we saw on s4 of Ats.

Angel and Buffy were over ages ago--get over it already.
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Jan 17 2009 10:23 pm   #28Joyce
Scarlet Ibis..good reply to the pervert.  Where do these people come from?!
Jan 18 2009 12:56 am   #29Guest
I have never writed on the forum but know  I feel the need to do it.the most emotianal escene for me es when spike fuck buffy on the...well all the time.... really who cares about love if your a spuffy fan. You all spuffy fan because spike and buffy could have sex and angel and buffy could not. You all just want to see so free porn on the tv. thats all.... you like to see how buffy got fuck rough by spike and how she liked you didn´t care about the most emotional escene you perverts.
I mean really that is just so stupid and inmature. I don´t know if your I bangel fan or you just like to west your time in stupid do in stupid comments but that is the most vulgar thing i have ever read. If you don´t like Spuffy then why do you west your time in a site that is about this couple. I mean you  have to be really bored to west your time like this.
Jan 18 2009 02:07 am   #30nmcil

I think that there would be tons of Spuffy fans and readers of that fiction even if heavy sex never became part of their relationship -

I think that Spuffy is all about  THE LOVE - and while reading and writing about their sexual encounters is for many fans extremely enjoyable, I am fairly certain that Spuffy Sex is not why most of us read and write Buffy and Spuffy -

Would you read Spuffy if it did not have all the heave sex?  I know that I would.

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Jan 20 2009 03:33 pm   #31BecomingChosenGirl13
the most emotianal escene for me es when spike fuck buffy on the...well all the time.... really who cares about love if your a spuffy fan. You all spuffy fan because spike and buffy could have sex and angel and buffy could not. You all just want to see so free porn on the tv. thats all.... you like to see how buffy got fuck rough by spike and how she liked you didn´t care about the most emotional escene you perverts.

Excuse me?,I take it from the hole "no love in spuffyville" shit you wrote that you`re a Bangel, why in the world would you take the time to google Spuffy, go into this site and talk smack?. I bet you have no life.

And free porn?, lol. If i need porn i can just find it online dumbass :D. Spuffy is about LOVE, deal.
Jan 20 2009 03:37 pm   #32BecomingChosenGirl13
And now to my favorite emotional scene, lol.
Touched is the best emotional love scene for me, it always makes me cry. James is at the top of his game with that wondefull speach.
Since i`m a fluff girl i don`t think there`s one emotional spuffy scene i don`t love....  :spuffy:
Jan 28 2009 09:19 pm   #33ya_lublyu_tebya
the most emotianal escene for me es when spike fuck buffy on the...well all the time.... really who cares about love if your a spuffy fan. You all spuffy fan because spike and buffy could have sex and angel and buffy could not. You all just want to see so free porn on the tv. thats all.... you like to see how buffy got fuck rough by spike and how she liked you didn´t care about the most emotional escene you perverts.

Oh my God, who is this person? Judging by the rubbish grammar and spelling, it's the same person who flamed me. Why would someone that immature and anti-Spuffy even bother to come here?? Anyway, just had to rant. And I'm kind of glad I wasn't the only one targeted by this idiot :-)
Jan 28 2009 09:54 pm   #34TammyDevil666
Ah, a Bangel troll, there's so many of them lurking in Spuffy sites because apparently, they have no life of their own.  It must kill them knowing how many sites are devoted to Spuffy, but honestly, I couldn't even understand a damn word that person said. 
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Jan 31 2009 04:55 am   #35Guest
So ok now you are deleting the opinions that you don´t like? thats great you guys really great. Just becuase someone thinks diferent about something you don´t hace to do that. Really stupid and inmature of your part
Jan 31 2009 07:06 am   #36TammyDevil666
What do you expect in a Spuffy site?  You can't come in here trashing the couple and expect everyone to just take that, it belongs elsewhere.
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Jan 31 2009 07:12 am   #37Scarlet Ibis
Tammy, this person already admitted to "needing drugs" on the Tag board after trashing Lilah.  Rationalizing their actions will prove to be pointless, I assure you :P  At any rate, negative as it was, it brought some attention to the forums, at least.  "Slow" is an understatement.
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Jan 31 2009 07:15 am   #38TammyDevil666
Needing drugs?  Well, at least they can admit when they have a problem.  I think we're dealing with a split personality here.  Oh, those are always fun.
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Jan 31 2009 08:08 am   #39Guest
Yes your guys are sooo most better. I am apologise on the tag board and also on the forum. I am not expenting for your guys to thanks me because what I did was wrong but at lest you could let it go.
Jan 31 2009 08:25 am   #40Guest
well I don´t care i apologise again and i hope that your learn how to forgive a person or  at least don´t act just as stupid like them (because yes what i did was stupid) Anyway bye and again sorry
Jan 31 2009 06:08 pm   #41evangelin

OK, I'm gonna close my eyes and forget the whole Bangel rubbish "eyes closed, sigh"  Now, that's better!

So, most emotional Spuffy? Wow, they're tons but I have to admit my first thought was Toched! I know I'm predictable but I cry every time I watch Spike's speech, and so does Buffy ;) ! After that I have to mention Beneath You like everybody did and, yes, "Where's the Emmy?" is a very good question. And one of my favourite scenes from ALL, the "Are you OK?", "I'm fine, luv, go check on the boy." looks in First Date!

Of course, that doesn't cover it up even one bit but I have this great fic waiting for me to pay it some attension(Spuffy, of course) so I gotta go!

Feb 02 2009 12:45 pm   #42Guest
I thing the most emotional scene is in 'the Gift' when Buffy has died and you see spike walk towards her body and just collapse, like his whole world id just gone.

Also i would say when Buffy goes to make sure he hasnt told Glory abot Dawn being the Key and she kisses him that scene is cool too!
Feb 16 2009 09:57 pm   #43Messiah
Gah! I totally forgot about the hallway scene in "First Date." My heart breaks when Buffy walks past Spike after he just gave her what appears to be a rehearsed-in-his-head little speech about no cozy little crypt for two, and he gets that far-off look on his face as he leans back in Buffy's direction, just clinging to that last frayed shred of hope...Crap :crap: I'm crying now, and I'm not even watching it :-(

I completely forgot about that episode! Remind me what it's about again exactly??

Well, there are so many. The church in "Beneath You" is my favorite scene from the series, period, but I'm not sure if it's my favorite emotional Spuffy.

Oh god yes I remember that.. I cried when I saw it and I cry every time I see it. It's so touching and completely sad. " Buffy, shame on you. Why does a man do what he mustn't? For her. To be hers."... That touched me su much... i can't stop crying... ;.;
It's horrible that Buffy can still be a bitch to him. She should have just snuggled him after that!

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Feb 17 2009 03:23 am   #44Eowyn315
I completely forgot about that episode! Remind me what it's about again exactly??
Buffy goes on a date with Principal Wood, and Xander goes on a date with a girl he meets at a hardware store. Xander's date turns out to be a demon, of course, and so Spike has to interrupt Buffy's date so they can go save Xander from being bled out to open the Hellmouth. The hallway scene that was mentioned is when Spike confronts Buffy about going on a date with someone else, and he basically tells her it's okay if she does, because he doesn't have any illusions about them having a future together.
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Feb 17 2009 04:01 pm   #45Messiah
So ok now you are deleting the opinions that you don´t like? thats great you guys really great. Just becuase someone thinks diferent about something you don´t

OMG this is so pathetic! It's a person pretending to be Spanish and writing in bad English on propose.
OK, S.A. I speak Spanish you lame-a*&% faker!
How dare you insult us!?! and SPUFFY!!?!?!

BecomingChosenGirl13, hold my baby!!

Buffy goes on a date with Principal Wood, and Xander goes on a date with a girl he meets at a hardware store. Xander's date turns out to be a demon, of course, and so Spike has to interrupt Buffy's date so they can go save Xander from being bled out to open the Hellmouth. The hallway scene that was mentioned is when Spike confronts Buffy about going on a date with someone else, and he basically tells her it's okay if she does, because he doesn't have any illusions about them having a future together.

Now I remember!
I actually hated that episode (not hate, really)
It seemed like such a useless episode that they put in there because they had run out of better ideas.
That's just my opinion/


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Feb 17 2009 04:04 pm   #46Messiah
I seem to have pushed the quote button one-two many times... O.o sorry  ^^  ;.;

- If you want to win a war, you must serve no master but your own ambition..

-The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.

- A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend.


Mar 30 2009 03:08 am   #47Guest
All of the above! Although my favourite is probably touched- it just seems to show how far their relationship has come and how they've grown (mostly Buffy, but Spike too). And it signals the possibility of a completely different romantic relationship between them, compared to the one in Season Six. IF only they'd have gotten to pursue it!

One no one's mentioned is in Fool For Love, the look in Spike's eyes when he realises Buffy's crying. The way it goes from rage and hatred to empathy and love is amazing. Just that whole scene makes me really emotional, and signals, to me, the moment when Buffy started leaning on Spike, which she continues to do right until the end of season seven.

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Apr 04 2009 07:02 am   #48Guest
One no one's mentioned is in Fool For Love, the look in Spike's eyes when he realises Buffy's crying. The way it goes from rage and hatred to empathy and love is amazing. Just that whole scene makes me really emotional, and signals, to me, the moment when Buffy started leaning on Spike, which she continues to do right until the end of season seven.

Wow, what an amazing observation you had.  I hadn't even thought of it as the turning point for her, just for him.  But now that you point it out, I realize how perfectly right you are. Thanks for sharing that.  You are right, too, about the look on Spike's face and the way it showed all those expressions.  SMG and JM are both good actors at showing emotion on their faces--and that seems to be how Spike and Buffy's emotional moments usually went.  Except for Spike's "You're the one" speech, they very rarely, if ever, discussed their relationship;  it was always done with the way their eyes would light up or soften which made the scenes even more emotional.
Apr 05 2009 11:03 pm   #49spikes_wish
it was always done with the way their eyes would light up or soften which made the scenes even more emotional.

Although Spike is always very vocal about his feelings etc, Buffy is much more guarded, which is why it makes more sense for them to communicate through body language. And they do get quite into it in Never Leave Me, realtionship talk wise. But after that, and after she saves him it's like they don't really need to talk about it anymore. WHatever badness is between them is all past.

Which brings up another emotional Buffy scene- the "I believe in you scene". Highly emotionally charged, and a beautiful moment. I think it means more than if she'd turned around and said I loved you- it's exactly what Spike needs to hear in order to stop him from giving up. I don't think Buffy telling him she loved him would have had the same affect.  And then the stupid bringers ruined it. 
Apr 06 2009 04:59 am   #50nmcil
Which brings up another emotional Buffy scene- the "I believe in you scene". Highly emotionally charged, and a beautiful moment. I think it means more than if she'd turned around and said I loved you- it's exactly what Spike needs to hear in order to stop him from giving up. I don't think Buffy telling him she loved him would have had the same affect. And then the stupid bringers ruined it.

Agree - this scene was all about Spike and finding his inner strength and having a new and powerful reason for staying in the game and knowing that inside there is that powerful man/vampire that can make a choice to be a positive force in the Sunnydale world but also in the Spike world. 

I had so much admiration for Spike when he tells Buffy that she has to kill him - A GREAT Spike moment - our vamp hero at his best  IMVHO -
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Apr 06 2009 01:11 pm   #51spikes_wish
I had so much admiration for Spike when he tells Buffy that she has to kill him - A GREAT Spike moment - our vamp hero at his best IMVHO -

Completely agree- it's the first time we really see him admitting- whilst vehemently trying to deny it- that he wants to be a good man. And not just for Buffy, but for himself as well. And the fact that Buffy is the only one who can believe he can be, in contrast to being the one who was hardest on him, clearly means the world to him.
Apr 08 2009 09:12 am   #52Guest
I have several fav spuffy moments now that this has gotten me thinking. of course the moment in Touched because that entire scene was just plain brilliant, but also when Spike defends Buffy it seems like such a powerful moment for the two of them. I don't think this was said yet but in Potential when they are putting on the fight for the pontentials and she has such concern for him when she thinks she hurt him. In The Killer In Me Buffy has such a concern for him when his chip is firing. Also in Sleeper when Buffy is confronting him about what Holden said and when he says, "God help me Buffy, it's still all about you." it was so sweet and it does affect her. I have more but for now I am done.
Apr 08 2009 09:12 am   #53Guest
I have several fav spuffy moments now that this has gotten me thinking. of course the moment in Touched because that entire scene was just plain brilliant, but also when Spike defends Buffy it seems like such a powerful moment for the two of them. I don't think this was said yet but in Potential when they are putting on the fight for the pontentials and she has such concern for him when she thinks she hurt him. In The Killer In Me Buffy has such a concern for him when his chip is firing. Also in Sleeper when Buffy is confronting him about what Holden said and when he says, "God help me Buffy, it's still all about you." it was so sweet and it does affect her. I have more but for now I am done.
Jan 23 2010 11:26 pm   #54Niori
When Spike sings to Buffy in Once More With Feeling, when Spike stops her from burning up. He's holding her, and there is so much emotion in his voice and on his face- it's awesome. And just the words of the song itself...
I'm also a little biased as I am a musical geek and it's my favourite episode. lol
~ Niori ~
Jan 24 2010 09:47 am   #55BandS

BUFFY
(walks after him) You're a dope.

SPIKE
I'm a what?

BUFFY
You're a dope. And a bonehead. And you're shirty.

SPIKE
Have you gone completely carrot-top?

BUFFY
Do you see this? (holds up the scythe) This may actually help me fight my war. This might be the key to everything. And the reason I'm holding it is because of you. Because of the strength that you gave me last night. Look, I am tired of defensiveness and weird, mixed signals. You know, I have Faith for that. Let's just get to the truth here, OK? I don't know how you felt about last night, but I will not—

SPIKE
(breathes in, looks away) Terrified.

BUFFY
Of what?

SPIKE
(lets out a slow sigh) Last night was... (looks up) God, I'm such a jerk. I can't do this.

BUFFY
Spike...

SPIKE
It was the best night of my life. If you poke fun at me, you bloody well better use that, 'cause I couldn't bear it. It may not mean that much to you, but—

BUFFY
I just told you it did.

SPIKE
(sighs) Yeah...I hear you say it, but... I've lived for soddin' ever, Buffy. I've done everything. Done things with you I can't spell, but... I've never... been close... to anyone. Least of all, you. 'Til last night. All I did was... (smiles) hold you, watch you sleep. And it was the best night of my life. So, yeah... I'm... terrified.

BUFFY
You don't have to be.

SPIKE
(looks at her) Were you there with me?

BUFFY
(looks straight at him) I was.

SPIKE
What does that mean?

BUFFY
I don't know. Does it have to mean something?

SPIKE
No. (looks away) Not right now.

BUFFY
Maybe when...

SPIKE
No. (throws up his hand) Let's just leave it.

BUFFY
OK.

SPIKE
(sighs) We'll go be heroes. (walks out the door)

That moment right there besides the one in the hall are the Most emotional to me.  The one that makes me cry buckets of tears will always be the cave when Buffy rescues him and the I'm not ready for you to not be here...The 'I Love You, no you don't but thanks for saying it...makes me want to slap Buffy...still emotional but makes me mad at her audacity...but I guess better late than never huh...I'd be the same way too.

The stairs made my heart just burst with such awe from how Spike was...Buffy was still herself yet different.  So I was basing all my opinions on how Spike was...But Spike's Most emotional scene for me...was when Buffy died.  I cry every time he breaks down...I love a man who can let his emotional side show and yet still be masculine too...

Can we just say we love all those special and emotional moments with Spuffy... ;)


Jan 24 2010 05:53 pm   #56All4Spike
Oh... there are so many 'moments'. I agree with all that have gone before, of course but my top favourite is the chapel scene which was the best scene - and IMHO the best acting - in the entire series - then comes one nobody has mentioned yet - the scene where she passes him the amulet. The open love in Buffy's huge eyes and the stunned wonder in Spike's.... and the way they then just lie down to sleep together as if it was the most natural thing in the world...
Love's a funny thing...
Jan 24 2010 07:12 pm   #57Spikez_tart
Mmm The morning after they sleep together and Buffy leaves him a note.  What's in that note? 
If we want her to be exactly she'll never be exactly I know the only really real Buffy is really Buffy and she's gone' who?
Jan 24 2010 08:17 pm   #58nmcil
So many, so many to choose from - my choices usually coincide with the pivotal moments in their relationship or in a critical statement of the characters.

Mine are:

Church/Cross scene from "Beneath You" - for the sheer power of the story telling and the performances  - continues to be my all time favorite scene of the entire series.

Door Entrance scene - the pivotal moment of communication and passage onto another level for them - And HOW WONDERFUL that it takes place at the inside door way, one of the iconic symbols of passage way, journey and movement from one realm into another - Spike coming and going now an equal with Buffy.  This is for me a beautiful resolution to the bedroom scene - another great metaphor of rite of passage, from the physical to the spiritual and emotional healing -

Amulet Passage - the final symbol of acceptance, recognition and equality - Spike, IMO, is now her legitimate royal consort - One of the most powerful scenes - wonderful in its understatement  Followed Up by Spike contemplation of the amulet just before Buffy walks in.

Burning Hands Joining and intertwined -  the final symbol and metaphor that they have come together as one  - and you will note that it is Buffy who initiates the joining.  I read on another board that Joss Whedon states that this is the symbol and moment statement of Buffy's Love for Spike.  And while Spike Magnificent Hero Journey is complete at this point, I will always be glad that we had more Spike in Angel Season Five.  The only reason that Angel was given another season was predicated on Spike joining the series.

Harsh Light of Day  - that scene when Spike is taunting Buffy about Parker      "SPIKE: So, you let Parker take a poke, eh? Didn't seem like you know each other that well..."  I like this particular line because it suggests, IMVHO, a character trait of Spike and how he related to Drusilla and being devoted to her all that time, plus it suggest that , again probably just my romantic side, that he does not want just any one-night stands, but to know and be a significant partner.
     
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Jan 24 2010 08:37 pm   #59coalitiongirl
 One of the best (I guess not "most emotional," but best) Spuffy moments is in "What's My Line," when Kendra and Buffy switch places so Buffy is fighting Spike.

Spike: I'd rather be fighting with you, anyway.
Buffy: Mutual!

I think that this so perfectly sums up the core of their relationship throughout the series. :)
 
Jan 24 2010 10:12 pm   #60lostboy 
Best, most-emo Spuffy moment came at the end of the Season 5 episode "Intervention."  That was one of the most important scenes of the entire series, I'd wager.

"What you did for me and Dawn?  That was real.  And I won't forget it."
Jan 25 2010 07:47 am   #61Sensei
To add a slight twist to this topic...

For me the top emotional scenes were not always that Buffy and Spike showed emotion; it is about how Joss had the power in his writing to make me feel deep emotion.  For me one of the best examples is the Iscene at Xander and Anya's non-wedding.  The words, expressions, and voice tones of Buffy and Spike showed so much honesty, caring, and even regret.  It was lovely and gave me hope  that they were going to work on building a more positive relationship, Alas,  it turned out to be just a scene that Joss had added into someone else's script. The other writers never followed up on it; in fact by the next show Buffy was her bitchy self again.  I've always wondered if Joss hadn't been so caught up in other projects that year and had written more episodes himself, if he would have developed a healthier relationship for them from that point on.

 Joss just loved to play on our emotions and twist a knife in our hearts; he would dangle some lovely Spuffy in front of us and then snatch it away from us!  Joss was a master at torturing his Spuffy fans that way!  An example of this which affected me deeply (although the characters themselves didn't display much emotion)  was when Spike was in the basement still crazy.  He opened up and shared some things about himself with Buffy and she seemed to really listen to him.  I thought she was so compassionate--until it turned out that it was the First pretending to be Buffy, and the real Buffy never heard what Spike had to say. To me that was so sad.  (It was about understanding Dru's craziness now that he was going through mental anguish himself, and she/the First comforted him.) 


Jan 25 2010 08:33 am   #62Niori
Another example that goes along with the dangling of lovey dovey Spuffy that abruptly was snatched away was in Normal again, where Buffy's telling Spike what happened at the non-wedding. They're having another friendly conversation like before the sex started and at the non-wedding. They're getting along and you can see the non-hurtful side of Spuffy....until the Scoobies show up and Buffy abruptly makes up some excuse about why she's talking to Spike at all. It's a pretty lame excuse too, since it's kinda obvious they're just sitting there together, relaxed and without the normal snark. But that's Buffy for you.
~ Niori ~
Jan 25 2010 12:34 pm   #63sosa lola
I believe the best emotional Spuffy scene would be Buffy rescuing Spike in Showtime. That look she gave him, you can clearly read "love" there. I really love Spuffy in S7, it was so subtle, sweet and just perfect! I love how much it wasn't "True Love" blah! It was about two friends with a deep connection, the fact that they never kissed in it makes their relationship so special.
Jan 25 2010 05:27 pm   #64TammyDevil666
I just saw that scene again recently, it's always been one of my favorites.  I love when he touches her to make sure she's real, and then the look on his face when he realizes that she really came for him.  *sighs*  I too loved their relationship in the 7th season, it made up for all the crap in the 6th, but I still wish they would have shared at least one kiss.
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Jan 25 2010 06:28 pm   #65sosa lola
I'm glad there wasn't a kiss. I guess I'm more into friendships than shipping. One of the reasons why Buffy/Xander is so special is the lack of relationship between them. And I really loved the Spuffy friendship in the beginning of S6 before the kissing and sex started.

I have to say that whenever someone doubts that Buffy loved Spike,  I point to the scene in Showtime. You can read the love in her eyes.
Jan 25 2010 06:53 pm   #66TammyDevil666
Well, when I say kiss I just mean a little peck or something, it could have even been on the cheek.  I'm glad nothing more happened, and that no sex was involved, that season proved there was much more between them than that.  I loved their relationship in the beginning of the 6th season as well, how they were more like friends, until it all got ruined.  I always knew that Buffy loved him, she just didn't choose the right time to say it, but at least she did.  Buffy doesn't say those words often, so when it actually does happen, she means them.  I think Spike's response was just to get her to leave. 
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Jan 25 2010 07:46 pm   #67sosa lola
 Buffy doesn't say those words often, so when it actually does happen, she means them.

True, as Buffy herself said, "There aren't a lot of people that I love." 
Jan 25 2010 08:15 pm   #68nmcil
I love the set-up to Spike's rescue from The First, Buffy's line about how Spike does not have much time.  It is total nonsense to take the perspective that Buffy does not love Spike, even in the "Buffy vs Dracula" we have the connection to her emotional desires and needs, the symbols of their journey from the dreamscape/sublimation trauma that resolves in their Season Seven journey and transformation.  The Buffy, Giles, Olivia carnival scene and Buffy's reaction to the vamp target is, IMO, excellent use of visual symbols and metaphor about Buffy and Spike. 
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Feb 06 2010 09:07 am   #69Niori
Since I just rewatched the episode, in 'Smashed', the look of complete and utter disbelieving awe on Spike's face when Buffy...ah...how do you put that delicately? lol. I'm sure everyone knows what I'm talking about. lol.
~ Niori ~
Feb 06 2010 11:33 am   #70lovesbitch91
Touched, of course. That's like, a complete given.
The Gift as well, both when she invites him and when she dies and he breaks down.
Doublemeat Palace, when he tells he she has to get out of there... breaks my heart, knowing how much he'd give for her.
For the pure fluff I like to pretend Something Blue wasn't from a spell. It was over the top, cheesy and kinda sickening when you weren't completely basking in the Spuffy cuteness.
One that always gets me just for the intensity is Dead Things, when Buffy's walking through the cemetery on patrol and Bush, "Out of this World", is playing, and she goes up to the crypt door and he's on the other side and she goes up to the crypt door, and he goes up to the door and I'm kinda going on and on with this, aren't I? But yeah, that scene. :-)
I'm rockin' the run-ons.
And where're the damn Emmy's?


Feb 06 2010 06:21 pm   #71nmcil
lovesbitch91 -

I love that crypt barrier hands scene too - and the Bush song is like made to order for Buffy and their Season Six and for Spike as well, but primarily fits Buffy and their relationship perfectly -
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Feb 07 2010 01:47 am   #72Spikez_tart
The crypt scene - that was a great one where they're hands are almost touching but there's a terrible barrier between them. 
If we want her to be exactly she'll never be exactly I know the only really real Buffy is really Buffy and she's gone' who?