Truth and Lies by Celest

sirc
04/14/2007 09:28 pm
Chapter Twelve/Confessions Part One         
Well done on both chapters :D

smlcspike
03/20/2007 12:31 am
Chapter Twelve/Confessions Part One         
Love it more please.

03/14/2007 06:51 pm
Chapter Twelve/Confessions Part One         
very good read, thank you. egomania must run in the travers family.

03/14/2007 06:36 pm
Chapter Twelve/Confessions Part One         
Thanks so much for the update. You did a really great job of showing the disparity between who Angelus was in both the demon world and for his daughter. I like that she knows exactly who her parents are and also realizes how important she is to them.

Jessica
03/14/2007 03:10 am
Chapter Twelve/Confessions Part One         
I don't think I've ever seen a story quite like this. I find it refreshing that we keep getting new authors with new ideas to our ship. Love the story so far. Can't wait to see where you are going to take it.
Thanks so much for the feedback! I was worried when I first posted that some people wouldn't be up to the idea, since it is so different. I hope I'm able to keep your interest!

03/13/2007 03:44 pm
Chapter Twelve/Confessions Part One         
oooh...very interesting turn of events...looking forward to reading more, love :)
Thanks! I really appreciate all of the feedback. I know I already showed everyone what her parents are capable of, but it's important for William to see, too. Plus, with them being MIA for so long as I concentrated on the budding romance, I think everyone needed a reminder of just what they were capable of. I'm glad you like it. By th way, I LOVE 'Because He Needs Me.' You'd said before that there were going to be like 74 chapters, right? Thanks so much for reviewing!

03/14/2007 06:44 pm
Chapter Eleven         
very happy to see the update. best wishes on the engagement and congratulation to your intended (tell him to go away, until you finish this fine tale. joking, mmm half joking?) thanks for the read.

03/13/2007 06:42 am
Chapter Eleven         
I was thinking about this story earlier today so it was quite lovely to see the update. I am really looking forward to where you go from here with the story. (And congratulations on the engagement.)
Thanks so much, Robyn! It's always a pleasure to hear back from you. I really am sorry about the hiatus, things just got crazy. Thanks for still thinking about the fic! Oh, and another chapter's out.

03/13/2007 03:32 am
Chapter Eleven         
hmmm...very intriguing update, looking forward to hearing her explanation :) excellent work :)
Thanks! I was worried it was a little stilted. I really do need to get better with dialogue, thoughts are just so much easier. . .Sorry for the hiatus, things just got a little nuts over here.

margaret
09/26/2006 06:48 am
Chapter Ten         
love this story, can't wait to see how william becomes spike and how the reunion goes.thanks

vladt
09/23/2006 10:11 pm
Chapter Ten         
great update, thank you.

09/23/2006 03:01 pm
Chapter Ten         
lol...i love the end...love elizabeth's thoughts...but i have this nervous feeling that angelus and dru are gonna take her away... :(

Robyn
09/23/2006 01:29 am
Chapter Ten         
I loved Dru's thought about Angelus fixing his hair. It's nice to have confirmation that Elizabeth is still her parents’ child. Thank you for the updates, I have really enjoyed them.

09/22/2006 10:23 pm
Chapter Ten         
I'm waiting for the next chapter.

Harry 4Eyes
09/22/2006 05:13 pm
Chapter Ten         
Randy Giles? OMG classic, well give a kid a name like that ofcourse he is going to grow up with something not quite right in the head.

Gotta have some dig at Angelus and his hair fettish, otherwise wouldn't be Buffy fic without it.

Ok so Giles bill be his great X many nephew, should mean when he gets out of line Spike shold spank him fr being a naghtly boy.

hmmm...so maybe she does get called as a slayer...or her vamp powers become activated or something. and she dies in the line of duty, Dru goes crazy, turns William...don't think they meet before that though....now the two parts that have me worried is the relationship between Dru and Spike and also Angel and Buffy.

Still loving it
Update Soon
Harry

Sirc
09/26/2006 03:13 pm
Chapter 9         
In some places I'm having a hard time figuring out who you are talking about when using 'he's and 'she's . It seems like you have used both for William.

The writing needs some polishing, but I like the idea :)

Robyn
09/23/2006 01:02 am
Chapter 9         
I really do enjoy the sweetness that is a part of Elizabeth's and William's romance.

vladt
09/22/2006 12:47 am
Chapter 9         
very easy read. and enjoyable. but now the unpleasantness, i would guess. thanks for the fine read. now on with the tale.

Harry 4Eyes
09/20/2006 08:37 pm
Chapter 9         
Hmmm....interesting idea, everythings the same yet different. So Angelous and Dru had a baby girl, named Elizabeth, who sounds amazingly like Buffy, down to her, hazel/green eyes, some say hazel some say green.

She grown old and gets married to William, then something happens I take, killed by the Council of Wankers my guess...it's never good when Travers name is mentioned, and from the prologue sounds like she might have been pregnent at the time.

So then Dru turn William, because she either is crazy, is mourning or had a vision of Buffy coming back...I don't really know.

Well certainly got my braincells working, can't wait to read what actually happens....though I seriously hope Angel and Buffy does not happen...*shudder*

Wait William Giles? Wait don't tell me she actually gives birth to a boy who is taken by the council, and Spike turns out to be Giles' Great time many grandfather? That would be Brilliant.

Well great start so far.
Update Soon
Harry
lol, I hope there's still some mystery to this! You were right at some parts. . . wrong at others. Thanks for the kind review, and no, not everything is going to be the same as on the show! Some will, some won't. . . and some will just be make-believe, just acting. I guess you'll just have to stick with me to find out! *grin*

09/20/2006 06:57 pm
Chapter 9         
wow..excellent chapter, so glad they're engaged...curious to see wht will happen when angelus and dru come back into the picture..
Thanks, I wasn't sure if it went okay. I'm not really so into the cutsie moments, and it's sometimes duifficult for me to write. I get a *little* too emotional sometimes. Thank you so much for continuing to review!

Robyn
09/23/2006 12:58 am
Chapter Eight         
The interaction between William and Elizabeth is so very sweet.

vladt
09/22/2006 12:35 am
Chapter Eight         
excellent read, thank you. william is going to be turn for a different reason this time.

09/20/2006 02:06 pm
Chapter Eight         
This story is amazing. I'm still trying to work out the plot but I'm very, very impressed. You mentioned that this was your first fic and its a GREAT first. Other than the fact that you mispelled 'social' in 'social circle' I didn't see any problems.
Also, it seemed from the beginning that you're going to bring this story into the actual timeline of the 'slayer-verse'... Are you going to do that?
I repeat again this story is Excellent and I can't wait for the next installment.
Yeah, they are going to merge. There's probably about ten chapters left, and then I have a sequel which I'm also currently working on, so all will be explained. Thank you so much for the kind review, it really meant a lot to me! And for the tip-it's all fixed now! The next chap should be coming out in the next couple of days, it's practicallt writing itself.

09/20/2006 02:01 am
Chapter Eight         
this is excellent....but i have a feeling that mummy and daddy wont be too happy about things when they come back...great chapter :)
lol, i guess you'll just have to wait and see!

Robyn
09/23/2006 12:52 am
Chapter Seven         
It’s really nice to see this updated again, I totally understand the RL issues. I liked the look at her life in this chapter and the information on where she got her dress.

vladt
09/22/2006 12:25 am
Chapter Seven         
lovely read, thank you.

09/20/2006 01:58 am
Chapter Seven         
lovely job...created a well-done picture of the time period covered...great job ;0
Thank you! I've been trying to keep the language and actions authentic to that time, I'm glad it's going well!

07/28/2006 01:06 am
Chapter Six         
awww...is he gonna take her forward in time then? very interesting so far....please tell me you havent abandoned this fic...i'd love to see more :)

sirc
05/17/2006 04:55 pm
Chapter Six         
great chapter

Robyn
05/11/2006 06:48 am
Chapter Six         
This didn't feel awkward to me, and perhaps what awkwardness there is aids with the feel of the chapter. The sorrow of Angelus came through so clearly at the knowledge that his daughter can’t stay with him. You have done such a great job of bringing depth and some humanity to him while still keeping him clearly a demon. Thanks for the update.
Thank you so much for the review! I'm glad that it didn't seem way too awkward, I thionk I'm better at thoughts than conversation right now, oh well. Thank you again, I always appreciate what you have to say.

vladt
05/11/2006 06:36 am
Chapter Six         
love the update. really hope you feel better soon. thanks for the fine read.
Thank you, I'm glad that you're still enjoying the story. And I'm feeling a lot better today (thank god!) and I've already started on the next chapter.

07/28/2006 01:02 am
Chapter Five         
wow...how awful...poor little baby...he was defending her, this time...though that doesn't make up for all the other atrocities he'd committed...great chapter :)

sirc
05/17/2006 04:49 pm
Chapter Five         
well done.

vladt
05/08/2006 08:42 pm
Chapter Five         
yes! yes, i read every lovely word. yes, i enjoy the way you are moving the story along. yes, i like the mini chapters. yes, i would enjoy longer chapter. yes, just yes! thanks for the fine read.
I'm glad you like it, thank you so much for responding to my little inquiry!

Robyn
05/08/2006 01:16 pm
Chapter Five         
Even mini chapters are good. :D I like the progression you make in each chapter with their little girl as she ages and learns more about her parents. I am really enjoying the story, and yes I read the introductory part, I read everything you put on the page. :)
Thank you! I know they seem a little random, but they help start the chapter off, I needed something to introduce the next little snapshot of their lives together, so it works.

07/28/2006 01:00 am
Chapter Four         
wow...that's chilling...yet so well written and very well done...great chapter :)

sirc
05/06/2006 01:35 pm
Chapter Four         
great chapter

Robyn
05/05/2006 07:51 am
Chapter Four         
Thanks for another great chapter. You really did a great job of showing Angelus's care for his daughter while still being an evil demon.
Thanks! Whenever I think of him, I think of 'Bad Boys II,' and the druglord. He had men chopped up in his kitchen, but he still doted on his daughter.

vladt
05/05/2006 04:22 am
Chapter Four         
loved the update. thanks for the read.

05/04/2006 06:59 pm
Chapter Four         
Hmmm. Are the gypsys going to curse Angelus soon?
You'll just have to wait and see! But keep in mind: things aren't going to be happening exactly as they did on the show, events are going to be skewed to fit my storyline. You're just going to have to trust me, I know where I'm going with this. The only questions are how long it's going to take, and how much development of the characters and plot is going to be needed to get there. Trust me, you'll understand more as the story progresses.

03/13/2007 12:56 pm
Chapter Three         
So they have Darla, what chained somewhere? She'd kill Lizzie that's for sure. Wondering about Angelus and his soul? Does he have it now or not? That should have happen after William but this is not canon at all, so I don't know anything. Thanks for sharing this very different story.
No, Angelus does NOT have his soul. This fic is based off of the idea that Angelus is a very possessive demon, and rightly sees Lizzie as his, which is why he protects her. She's his daughter, and won't let anything happen to her because of it. What I;m going with is that the reason why he went nuts when he was unleashed, and why he killed his family, is that he doesn't want to be reminded that he was once a weak, fragile human. Lizzie as created by his demon, while the girl he killed from his demon days, was pregnant by Liam. That's the distinctio you need to remember while reading this. As for Darla. . .she's gone back to her sire. Thanks for reading and reviewing!

margaret
09/26/2006 06:32 am
Chapter Three         
loved the baby wrapping angelus around her finger! would love to read castaway, where is it archived? thanks for a great story

margaret
09/26/2006 06:31 am
Chapter Three         
loved the baby wrapping angelus around her finger! would love to read castaway, where is it archived? thanks for a great story
it's at ripewickedplum.com, unfortunately it remains unfinished- plummie's one of the founders of the fandom, she's right up there with Sabershadowkat (if you haven't read her, you should-she's at sabershadowkat.com. Her Jungle series is amazing, and I'm constantly running back to her School Days series. She's definitely one of the mothers of the fandom!)

margaret
09/26/2006 06:31 am
Chapter Three         
loved the baby wrapping angelus around her finger! would love to read castaway, where is it archived? thanks for a great story

07/28/2006 12:57 am
Chapter Three         
i love darla getting ignored...lol...excellent chapter..so...i just wanna be sure i get it...is the seer dru, only he just didn't drive her insane? or another seer? or am i not supposed to know yet? :) lol

sirc
05/04/2006 05:35 pm
Chapter Three         
great chapter

05/04/2006 05:25 am
Chapter Three         
Lizzie's one tough little cookie! It seems she will be able to take whatever the planet can dish out to her. More story please.

vladt
05/04/2006 01:56 am
Chapter Three         
loved the update. thanks for the enjoyable read.

Robyn
05/03/2006 07:17 pm
Chapter Three         
I absolutely love this scene and how well Angelus's little girl manipulated him right back to where she wanted him. You are adding a whole lot of dimensions to him, and to his family.
Thanks! I was wondering how you all would react to it, I couldn't quite seem to banish it from my mind, so here it is! Thank you for your continued support Robyn!

03/13/2007 12:35 pm
Chapter Two         
Now I'm getting it. Angelus has his soul and somehow fathered a child that William will marry one day. His soul won't let him act like the demon he is. So that's why he cares about her and trying to keep the Council from finding out about her. Can't wait for Dru to find William. Very good fic, thanks.
Angelus does not have a soul, he's all demon. His demon sees his daughter as a favored Childe, or even a Mate without the ick. He's extremely proud of her existence, and very protective of her. A soul doesn't make a person feel love. That's up to the individual. Angelus is possessive and protexctive of Lizzie and Dru, because they are his family. Eventually, as he gets to know his daughter, he'll love her for her, rather than just as an extension of himself. Just like any parent would feel with a new child. Hope this helps!

sirc
05/04/2006 05:32 pm
Chapter Two         
great chapter

vladt
05/04/2006 01:48 am
Chapter Two         
excellent read, and that was difficult to write because i so hate angel/angelus. love the tale, more please. thanks for the read.
So do I normally! He gets a bit. . . pompous, the way he treats everyone around him, and he's not exactly the sharpest crayon in the box. Yeah, bring hell unto Earth, really smart, exactly. . . what was he going to eat? And aren't really susceptible to fire (if they were going with fire and brimstone)? That always bugged me.

05/03/2006 04:41 pm
Chapter Two         
Interesting that Angelus managed to impregnate this girl (Dru?). How will Spike come into the family and how will they get even with the Wankers' Council? More story please.
I actually just updated. And yeah, it's Dru. Don't worry, you'll find out!

05/03/2006 03:24 pm
Chapter Two         
So far i am loving the direction of the story. At the moment i don't think lack of dialog is holding it back at all. Can't wait for more.
Thanks, I've tried to write more dialogue, but always scrap it. It just doesn't fit with what I'm trying to write, so, lots of thinking's going on. Eh. I'm glad it's not affecting the story, thank you so much for taking the time to review! And I should have the next chap up w/i the next two hours.

05/03/2006 02:34 pm
Chapter Two         
very very good so far...can't wait for more...you portray angelus well, evil and scary but still with emotions...good job :)
Wow. . . thank you so, so much. He's difficult to write, as he's pretty dark. I was worried that I needed to have Dru chained to the bed or something, was worried he was too fluffy. Beware: he hets a bit bunny-like in the next chap, Anya'd hate him!

Robyn
05/03/2006 09:33 am
Chapter Two         
Thanks for the update I am still really enjoying this fic. And as for Angelus you are doing a good job with him.
Thanks for taking the time to review! I'm glad that he doesn't seem forced, he's the one tugging the most against where I'm going. =)

03/13/2007 12:13 pm
Chapter One         
Is this Drus POV and Angelus'? Who's the father? Angelus killed everyone else he knew, and he's going to keep Lizzie? OK, for the sake of the story, I'll buy it. Continuing to read this unusal fic, thanks.
No, Angelus didn't kill everyone he knew. After he was turned, he killed everyone else LIAM knew. It's an important distinction to make, here AND even on the show. Like a lot of vamps, he didn't want leaving, breathing reminders that he had once been a weak, fragile human. Lizzie was created by Angelus, not Liam. And the fact that most vamps can't father demons just adds to the appeal. She's something else, other than just his lineage, that sets him apart from the other vampires. Thanks for rading and reviewing!

sirc
05/04/2006 05:27 pm
Chapter One         
great chapter

05/03/2006 02:31 pm
Chapter One         
im starting to be quite intrigued by this...off to the next chapter :)
Thank you! i was really worried about that chapter, things didn't move quite as fluidly as I would have liked-I'm glad it still kept your interest, though!

Robyn
05/03/2006 12:52 am
Chapter One         
I really like this fic. I like how you give us the thoughts of the characters as a way of us getting to know them. I am looking forward to the next chapter.
Thank you! I was worried that you guys would want more dialogue, I'm trying to keep the setting of the story-namely 1700s-1800s-without compromising its believability, it just wouldn't be "realistic" to hear "like" every five seconds, and it's really hard to write in a way we don't normally speak, without reducing the reader to giggles. There'll be more of a balance later; but there will probably still be more thought than you normally see in most stories. That's just part of my writing style.

vladt
05/02/2006 09:05 pm
Chapter One         
very good read, thanks
Thanks! I was worried it didn't flow very well.

03/13/2007 11:42 am
Prologue         
What a puzzle? William was married a hundred years ago to someone who looked like Buffy? Thrilled to know that they are going to be parents. I've got quite a few chapters to go before I get caught up. Can't wait to see how this all came about. Very interesting idea.
Well, they're short, so you should have no problem catching up! ;) As far as the baby. . .she is Buffy. Only a different, happier Buffy than the one we knew. It's all a ruse for the stuffed shirts. I'm taking major liberties in with canon here, but you will see some parallels, like Angelus's meeting with Whistler in that alley. Thanks so much for giving the story a chance!

07/27/2006 06:15 am
Prologue         
very interesting beginning to this tale...looking forward to reading more of it...its an interesting twist on the backstory :) good job :)

05/03/2006 02:28 pm
Prologue         
intriguing start...i very much like this, can't wait to see where you take it :)
Thank you for continuing on-it meant a great deal to me. I just hope it doesn't get too weird...for me, or you guys. I'm trying to get everything down right...

05/02/2006 12:32 am
Prologue         
ok, good plot, very good start
Thank you! Things are going to be a little crazy at first, this is all just background information, I'm just trying to set things up. That's why the chaps are so short!

vladt
05/01/2006 08:51 pm
Prologue         
good hook, good beginning. now, we patiently(not) await more. thanks for the fine read.
I'm trying to get the chaps out quickly, I submitted chapter one, and am working on chapter two now.

05/01/2006 04:04 pm
Prologue         
Good start with a big mystery so we must continue to read if we want to find out about the wife and child of the vampire(s). More story soon please.
I'm glad you thought so! I was worried I was making it way too obvious where I was going with this. And I'm already half-way through the second part, so I should have it up sometime this afternoon if I like how it turns out. Wish me luck!

sirc
05/01/2006 12:36 pm
Prologue         
I liked it :)
Thank you! I really appreciate it, I've been nervous ever since I submitted it last night.

Robyn
05/01/2006 09:27 am
Prologue         
What a fantastic start, I am glad that you decided to post. I am really looking forward to where you go with this.
Thanks! Like I said, this story's been on "repeat" in my head for the past three years, so chapters should come fairly quickly. It's going to get a little rough, but you guys are going to have to trust me on this one.