After the Lies by BuffyMeetsSpike
Chapter: Chapter 4

07/03/2015 11:52 am
Wanted to add to my other Way Too Short Review - While I had such a hard time dealing with Giles and his perspective on the danger Spike was - it's certainly understandable.  I very much liked how you brought back his first experience with the tragic consequences of Buffy's relationship with Angel/Angelus - that was an event that changed the lives of all the Scoobs and how they would relate to Spike.  The shadow of Angel/Angelus was always a huge factor that influenced the dynamics of their relationships with Spike.   

Another good connect using Lilah and Wolfram and Hart as the way to get Giles back in time - I love how he had to resort to using this evil law firm to fix the evil or poor choices that he did to help kill Spike.  

Excellent story. 

07/03/2015 10:51 am
Great version of this event - 

Saggit
01/26/2014 07:37 am
I think I praised this on another site, but it's worth praising here, too. It's uncompromising, and true to character. The way the tension lengthens between an unrepentent Giles and Buffy-Dawn just stretches like a rubber band you know can't last forever; and Xander's graciousness forms a strong counterpoint. The foreknowledge that because of this Buffy willl not be able to get back Spike later, after the hellmouth's collapse, is all the most poignant.

Like most of your stuff, it takes a starkly uncompromising situation and follows it through to its grim conclusion. Very well done.

...oh, and comics? I don't do no steenkin' comics. (That's for those who remember The Treasure of the Sierra Madre.) The comics are a travesty of the series, IMO.

04/03/2013 04:22 pm
Wow Great Story :) can't wait till the next one^_^
Thanks so much! I really appreciate the feedback. 

ILoveLamp
11/17/2012 08:44 am
  I love the what ifs.  This one was just so dark and affecting.  I loved the hell outta it.  
I love that people write these things because I was in no way satisfied with the direction the comics went in.(After the fall was pretty great.)  The writers of those took a deep and kinda harrowing history and just kinda chucked it out, and pretty much reset the characters.  

  Im about to go on a rant here, so ill just say, the comics took a great, great TV show and turned it into a comicbook in the worst connotations of the word, and it's pretty much an unreadable mess.  Lastly, thank you for a fantastic read.
You are so welcome.

It's funny, I generally like graphic novels, and I loved Buffy, but I just couldn't get into the comics at all. I tried reading the first one and gave up halfway through. I was reading it going WTF? the whole time. 

So I choose to ignore them for the most part. :-)

Drak
05/26/2012 05:44 am
Nicely done - but I still want to punch Giles!
Thanks so much. Do like Spike does - put his face on a punching bag. 

12/18/2011 04:26 pm
Excellent way of Giles arriving to see the situation clearly and doing what needed to be done!
Thank you so much!

12/11/2011 07:19 pm
A fitting, if brutally painful end to a very painful story.  Buffy was a general, but every general needs a trusted aide and support staff.  When her friends and Giles betrayed her in season 7, it was clear that without Spike she would not have survived and neither would anyone else.  Well done.

Blue
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Thank you ever so much!

Those 'what if' moments are what bring me back to the show again and again. So many things in the show hinged on one moment, and things could have gone very differently if just a slightly different outcome had occurred.

laura
11/05/2011 11:56 pm
I loved this story. I was alittle aprehensive about reading it because of Spike's death but was so glad I did. I liked Buffy. I hate stories where she kills herself because she can't live without him. You have the perfect blend. She is totally grieving but she does function. I think you nailed Giles character perfectly too.
Thanks so much! I really appreciate the review. 

11/04/2011 12:28 pm
This made me cry. He saved Buffy at the cost of his own life, too bad Spike still dies.
Well, I guess we don't know what happens now. The whole Butterfly effect - what would change if Giles knew the importance of supporting Buffy? So who knows, the outcome could have been different.

But evil author that I am, I left that up to the readers' imagination...

11/04/2011 12:20 am

Great ending to a terrific story. I didn't mind that it was short, I felt you got the whole emotional journey of Giles and Buffy's feelings just right. I felt sad and relieved at the same time at the conclusion, more stories to come I hope.

Thank you so much. It seemed to need to end where it did.

I've got a couple of stories in the hopper. We'll see which one rises to the top first. 

eyghon
11/03/2011 10:08 pm

Fantastic! That was just brilliant.

Thank you! Thank you very much. 

Jane
11/02/2011 09:05 pm

Really enjoyable fic, loved the plot and great conclusion. Though I wouldn't have minded if it had been longer.

I thought about making it longer, but I was afraid of developing the dreaded padding. 
Glad you liked it though!

11/02/2011 10:03 am
Great story it also drove me nuts that giles kept over ruling her leadership it made it seem like Buffy wasnt able to lead
Giles needed a big smackdown to understand that he needed to change. 

magnus374
11/02/2011 08:20 am

A chance for Giles to redeem himself and make things different. A good way to end it.

I think he deserved the chance to fix things. 

And also a boot to the head, but we'll let someone else deliver that. 

SeaPea
11/02/2011 04:34 am
Yes, a satisfying ending.  I missed Spike but the story was still excellent. 
He was there...  sort of... in evil spirit form...

Sniff. I missed him too. :-)

behind blue eyes
11/02/2011 02:08 am

Love the ending.  I wish this is how Giles handled this the first time.  Really enjoyed!

Glad you liked it! Always nice to have you along for the ride. 

11/02/2011 12:17 am
On the show, Giles undermined Buffy at every opportunity in season 7, which I never understood, and accused Buffy of depending upon Spike, when of course he would prefer she was depending upon him, which she had realised she couldn't. Giles is very blinkered where Spike is concerned, and refused to accept that Buffy had genuine feelings for him, so his behaviour is believable here. I'm so glad he accepted that he was at fault and sacrificed himself to put things right. A great story. :-)
Giles definitely drove me nuts in season 7 as well. I mean make up your mind already. Do you want a compliant, obedient little worker bee, or do you want a leader? If you want a leader, then let her lead for heaven's sake. 

Part of why I felt I needed to kill him. In a noble way of course...

Sibb
11/01/2011 08:01 pm

Well, I guess Giles did end up doing the right thing afterall. Thank you for "fixing" things!

No problem! So glad you enjoyed. 

Curtis
11/01/2011 07:43 pm
This story ROCKS. Not once was I bored with this tale, but at the end I have to say... was it always the plan to have Giles go back in time or did you changed it?
I am so glad you liked it so much! 

I had the time travel in my head from the start, but having Lilah orchestrate it was a last minute addition. 

11/01/2011 01:01 pm
I'm glad to see that Giles learned his lesson, although it's a bit sad that now Buffy won't know she loves Spike (at least not until the big battle).
This was interesting, I wasn't expecting a correction in the timeline, but it's certainly one way to make sure Spike and Buffy both stay alive. Oh and Buffy's death scene brought me to tears so points for that :)
Sorry to make you cry, but glad you liked it.

Now you need to finish yours so I can compare...

Melly
11/01/2011 12:59 pm

Thanks for such an original story!  Loved it and looking forward to your next one.

Thanks so much for the kind review! I will do my best to come up with a new story soon.