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James in Dragon Ball movie

Nov 14 2007 07:26 am   #1Guest

Hi everybody. James is going to in the Dragon Ball movie. He is playing the villain. I tried making a link to the Hollywood Reporter on here but I couldn't.

So, more info. is at the Hollywood reporter site. 

I don't know much about Dragon Ball. But this such great news for him.


Thanks

Nov 14 2007 07:29 am   #2Guest

Isn't that animated?  I don't really know much about it, either.

Nov 14 2007 07:37 am   #3Guest

Yeah, it is. 

I read the news at whedonesque site. There are some people who thinks this is going to be an awful movie. I say even if it is. James Marsters is going to be one of the leads in a big screen movie. I say that is good enough for me.

Nov 14 2007 10:10 am   #4Guest

Live-action adaption.

This will either be amazing or terrible.

But... um, JM is playing Piccolo. A broody green alien. Interestingly, the character Piccolo was originally a villain on Dragonball (and undoubtedly the villain in the movie) but became a fan favorite (a breakout character, if you will) and became an ally to the protagonists. Sounds oddly familiar...

DB is a very very very big franchise so this movie will definitely get viewers.

http://www.movieweb.com/news/96/24396.php

Nov 14 2007 11:06 am   #5Blood Faerie

Oh dear gods *covers head and groans*

Unfortunately, we had big vampires in the next room, and I didn't think they'd wait while we had hot monkey sex. ~Cerulean Sins :: (Anita to Jean-Claude)“Is there anything your bloodline does that doesn’t involve getting naked?" ~Danse Macabre :: I’m dating three men, living with two more, and having occasional sex with two others. That’s seven men. I’m like a pornographic Snow White. I think seven is plenty. ~Danse Macabre
Nov 14 2007 12:29 pm   #6Guest

Definitely not good, before i was a fan of Buffy i used to be a huge fand of the Dragon Ball series.  Before it became the big thing in America.  But on both shows my favorite characters were similear, on BTVS:Spike, on DBZ: Vegeta.  And that little line of Andrew in season7 where he says that he has reformed, used to be evil but now fights on the side of good, really fits in with Spike.  Now Vegeta was the true break-out character, he was a powerful villian in the beginning, came very close to defeating Goku(main-hero).  Over the years he slowly progresses, he didn't have a chip or was soulles, but circemstances forced him to fight on goku's side.  Not that he cared about him or his group, even after he has a human child and wife.

And the main reason why he was evil was simply because that was how he was brought up, he is the prince of a dead race(saiyans), in all his childhood he was told by his father that he was the best.  For many years after his defeat, he holds immense hatred  for Goku(low-level class saiyan) and simply can't understand how he was defeated by him.  In the end, he comes to see Goku as his only friend and is grateful for the mercy he has shown him.

Now piccolo, James really shouldn't play him, first because later in the series he pretty much loses his purpose, just being a small side-character.  James is way too short, the green dude is supposed to be 6f3.  Vegeta however is much closer to James height and even facial structur.  Vegeta was a major character, the one that has the most develpmont on the show.

I really hope they reconsider him for the role.

Nov 14 2007 12:39 pm   #7SpikesKatMac

Maybe it's because I don't like anime, but I really don't see this leading anywhere good.  I can't think of any version of  a live action film doing anyone's career any favors; maybe if he was doing a voice like in Doomsday (where he did an EXCELLENT job, BTW), but live actions usually just make me cringe and hide in embarrassment.  I really hope it falls through, or becomes a cartoon, rather than live action.

A beautiful and ineffectual angel, beating in the void his luminous wings in vain - Matthew Arnold
Nov 14 2007 01:34 pm   #8Guest

Yes, the movie is going to suck. Is all I have been hearing.

But I don't see the bad in this for James. I think this movie will help his career more than damage it. I could be wrong but I am going to think positive.

Nov 14 2007 05:49 pm   #9Guest

Transformers did pretty well. Then you got all the comic movies, they were just drawings to begin with.

It doesn't really matter if it's good or bad, his acting will be noted and best of all I'm sure from his pov he gets a nice pay check. Money is always of the good.

Personally I wont want to see the movie, but good for him getting a role in a big budget movie.

Nov 14 2007 06:33 pm   #10dawnofme

I don't even know what Dragon Balls is, but the mental picture I'm getting is rather funny.  

I don't like anime either, but if James is going to be in it, I'm going to watch it.

Nov 14 2007 07:10 pm   #11Guest

*G*

I'm sure it comes on children's channels.

Nov 14 2007 07:13 pm   #12Eowyn315

I really hope it falls through, or becomes a cartoon, rather than live action.

It's a $100 million dollar movie, in what is apparently a popular franchise. I don't think it's going to fall through at this point.

I'm sure it will be great for James, but personally, I'm going with BF's reaction. I don't think I can stand watching another movie/TV show that I don't like just because James is on it. I can't actually think of a single thing he's been in since Buffy that I watched because I liked it, and not just to see James.

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Nov 14 2007 07:19 pm   #13goldenusagi

There's going to be a Dragonball movie?  I've been out of the anime loop for a while, so I'm sort of shocked.  A DB movie was always sort of lingering, but it never seemed like it would actually happen.  I wonder how it'll go over.  I hope it's good for James.

Nov 15 2007 12:20 am   #14Guest

Here's the reaction from fanboys at AICN:

http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/34787#comment_1773468

 

The movie hasn't even started filming, they have a $100M budget for special effects, and they're aiming to release it on August 15. Something tells me Fox is pushing this through in an aim for money from the DB/DBZ fans, not making a good movie.

According to a con report from '03, James' son was a fan of DB, so that probably influenced his decision to sign on - on top of the writer's strike shutting down TV indefinitely.

I like anime, but I'm a fan of Vampire Hunter D, Ghost in the Shell, Hellsing........the stuff aimed at kids is crap! I'd love to see anything from the GITS 'verse as a well done live-action, but "Dragonball"???? My ex was so addicted to that, that he had to cancel his cable just so he wouldn't sit on his ass watching Cartoon Network all day and night instead of going to work. The couple minutes I saw here and there was enough to make me shudder.

I watched "The Mountain" for James.....but I don't know if I can stomach a whole DB movie......I'm happy for him that he gets more for the kid's college fund, even if this doesn't go to theater, but I'd so love to see him as a romantic lead, or any of those great Oscar-nominated roles. He's so talented! I'd love to see him do comedy, too. Dragonball pretty much sticks him in the genre niche forever, if it's good, or sinks him into eternal fanboy hate, if it's bad.

I don't know about this one....really don't. I've always liked what james has done in anything I've watched.....but this one worries me. But hey, at least it's not Neon Genesis Evangelion.

CM

Nov 15 2007 12:54 am   #15Scarlet Ibis

I personally never watched it, nor had the desire to.  The bits of DB I have seen through my younger sibs and cousins, I couldn't stand.  However, this can be nothing but good for James' career.  Fantastic 4 sucked huge donkey balls, but it made a ton of money and a sequel.  Depending on how big his role is, this could definitely open doors for him for Hollywood's silver screen.  Julian McMahon played the villain in that crappy movie (which I only saw cause of him--even the commercials couldn't sell me on it, and I don't think they broke the bank on making "F4" either, if the lack of special effects was any indication), and got another role in "Premonition."  Granted, it sucked, but I think it will definitley give James' career a huge shove in a positive direction.

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Nov 15 2007 01:03 am   #16Scarlet Ibis

Also, the director, James Wong, did "The One" and "Final Destination," so...I don't think it will look bad.  Also, the lead guy...Chawtin or whatever, he may have a semi strong young following from his previous work.  Didn't recognize his name, but his face.  I've see him around. 

The rest will be up to acting and script.

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Nov 15 2007 01:07 am   #17Immortal Beloved

Oh, god, no.  No!  NO!  I'm not into anime.  I don't even know wtf Drangonball is, and I don't wanna find out.  But, I once said that I'd watch Jimmy watch paint dry.  Then I watched Shadow Puppets: Jimmy, meet drying paint :-P  I even watched WAT, though I had no clue what was going on.  All so that I could see our boy in action.  I'm not paying movie prices to see it in the theatre.  MAYBE a rental.  Yes, that's it: I'll walk right into Blockbuster, head held high...dressed in a Unibomber sweatshirt, with the hood up, and sunglasses, in a different neighborhood so that no one that I know will see me :-P  Could I do that?  Could I do that for our boy?  Actually, now that I think about it, many wonderful (and not so wonderful) actors stared (and extra-ed) in many craptacular movies before.  I watch older movies and say, "Hey, I didn't know she/he was in this before she/he was her/him!"  But it doesn't usually go the other way around.  Of course, there is that supporting role in P.S., I Love You.  Now, that I can get behind.  I could even ditch the Unibomber get up :-)  Yeah, I can show my support that way and not loose a shred of dignity in the process.  Whew!  Crisis averted.

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Nov 15 2007 01:40 am   #18SpikesKatMac

Then I watched Shadow Puppets: Jimmy, meet drying paint

Oh, come on IB; Shadow Puppets had one very important redeeming feature that I think you're forgetting:  JM spent a great deal of time running around in his underwear!  :eyebrows:  Surely that made it rate better than watching paint dry!!  :-D

But I agree; I can't see myself paying theatre prices for DB, even for JM's sake; I'll be right behind you in line at Blockbuster; I'll be the one wearing the fake Groucho Marx eyeglasses.

For the sake of JM's career, I sincerely hope the movie is well represented, and well received; I've always felt that he has so much more talent than what seems to be appreciated by Hollywood, and I can understand him wanting the big paycheck, b/c of his kids; however, part of me can't help but worry that it's going to be one of those movies where fans of the actor are sitting in horror, absolutely embarrassed to be watching what's on the screen.  For every Transformers movie or successful comic book franchise, there's a cringe-fest like TMNT or The Phantom (remember Billy Zane???)  Hollywood is so fickle, it would only take one bad movie, and we'd probably never see James on the big screen again. 

A beautiful and ineffectual angel, beating in the void his luminous wings in vain - Matthew Arnold
Nov 15 2007 01:54 am   #19Scarlet Ibis

Julian McMahon's still here...

And how much is a rental at Blockbuster? Five bucks?  Might as well see the movie for two extra bucks, or maybe even the five, if you go when it first opens (at least, that's how it works at the AMC over here, or something like that), or senior citizen's discount or children's ticket.  Hey, I'm a poor college student...gotta find those lovely loopholes ;)

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Nov 15 2007 01:57 am   #20Eowyn315

I'll walk right into Blockbuster, head held high...dressed in a Unibomber sweatshirt, with the hood up, and sunglasses, in a different neighborhood so that no one that I know will see me :-P  Could I do that?  Could I do that for our boy?

I have an even better solution: Netflix. Or Blockbuster Online, whichever's your poison. The movie is shipped to you, so you don't have to feel like you're being judged by the check-out clerk, and - bonus - since you pay a monthly fee, technically you're not paying anything extra for a craptacular movie, since you'd pay the same price whether you got this one or not.

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Nov 15 2007 02:13 am   #21Immortal Beloved

JM spent a great deal of time running around in his underwear! 

A) How could I forget that? :-)  B) I begrudgingly concede that watching Jimmy watch paint dry in his underwear is marginally better than fully-clothed.  I say marginally because they were boxers and not boxer briefs, which I think Jimmy's tushy would look spectacular in ;-)

As for Transformers, saw it.  Hated it.  I like my movies with substance somewhere in between the action.  Bang-boom alone just doesn't do it for me.  Transformers had absolutely no substance.  There's more plot when I brush my teeth in the morning :-P  That's why I love the newer Batman and Spiderman movies.  Tons of plot, characterization, and bang-boom :-)

Give me Spuffy, or give me death.
Nov 15 2007 02:30 am   #22Guest

Yep, if it does make it to the big screen, it will be reviewed by every major critic out there - imagine this being the first Ebert and Roeper have ever heard of JM - and if it's a horrible script? Then we better hope that it makes good money at the box office still....or James is that guy tat was in that movie. That's what I'm afraid of, because his role is so small in PSILY, they're not going to remember his name from that......it's going to be from Dragonball. If James was 25, then they'd say "hey, the kid has plenty of time to make a better name for himself in his career". But as gorgeous as he is for 45, he's still 45, so having this as his first in-theater lead role? Hollywood could very well not take it positively. He's too talented to have to support himself with conventions for the rest of his career.

CM

I do like "The Phantom", though. Watched it a few times on cable. Billy Zane was hot.

Nov 15 2007 02:32 am   #23SpikesKatMac

I will agree; boxer briefs would have been better; and I can't believe I'm having a discussion on a forum about a man's underwear, but hey!  It's been a day from hell, so why not?  Talking about JM's underwear wardrobe choices are guaranteed to only make the day better, so bring it on; in fact, let's start talking about the famous "sock" from Buffy!!!  :-D

I agree, I like having to do a little bit of thinking when I watch a movie, and I thought Christian Bale as Batman more than made up for Val Kilmer or George Clooney.  I will, however, confess that occasionally, I can be found watching action movies simply for the eye candy (Thomas Jane in The Punisher, for one example, or Jason Statham in the Transporter movies)

Transformers?  Well, my baby sister said it best; we grew up watching the cartoons, and when she saw the preview and saw Optimus Prime had flames, I thought she was going to shit a ring around herself.  She said, and I quote, "Why not just put the Naked Lady mudflaps on him?  That would certainly bring a touch of class to the movie!"  Otherwise, my husband was able to stay awake through it.  That just about says it all.

A beautiful and ineffectual angel, beating in the void his luminous wings in vain - Matthew Arnold
Nov 15 2007 04:08 am   #24Guest

Oh, I love Christian Bale as Batman! I can't wait for the next movie in May.

I like Jason Statham in general, so I would check out Transporter, though I haven't yet. One of our friends saw Transformers and liked it for the sheer destruction factor. Admitted it had no real redeeming factors besides "things blow up". :D

You mention the flames, though - oh goodness! They had a cow and a half about that over in the threads on AICN for the movie. You do not mess with fanboys' memories! :P

CM

Nov 15 2007 08:38 am   #25Blood Faerie

I thought Transformers was going to be a joke when I first saw the movie posters and teasers popping up, but considering now it's one of my fave movies of all time.... *cough* And used to love the Batman movies and the X-men movies would be better if I wasn't such a friggin' Rogue fan (hello, that's my nickname since I was a kid) and think they totally wrecked her character, not to mention my seething hatred that they never brought in Remy......... *takes a moment to get temper under control, lol*

But, I'm more into magical girl animes *sigh* They did make a live-action series of my Sailor Moon at least and at one point there was talks of a movie in the late nineties, but they scrapped it. James could've been my Mamo-chan *grin* But I never liked DB... whenever I flipped past the channel it always seemed to be the same storyline

Oh oh oh... I just had a thought that James would make a good Viento too *hops around giddily*

Unfortunately, we had big vampires in the next room, and I didn't think they'd wait while we had hot monkey sex. ~Cerulean Sins :: (Anita to Jean-Claude)“Is there anything your bloodline does that doesn’t involve getting naked?" ~Danse Macabre :: I’m dating three men, living with two more, and having occasional sex with two others. That’s seven men. I’m like a pornographic Snow White. I think seven is plenty. ~Danse Macabre
Nov 15 2007 02:04 pm   #26Guest

Congrats James on landing one of the leads in a movie.

You know I have been reading everywhere how people think this movie is going to suck and people want something else for James.  I actually think I could like this movie if there is a lots of action with a good plot. Then again I am not a DB fan so I wouldn't know if the movie is way off based.

Besides people who are a fan of James should be happy that James is getting work. Cause most actors aren't. James would get most exposure from this then being in PS I Love You since his role is so small. 

Plus, his son is or was a huge Dragonball fan. James has said that they would watch Dragonball Z together.  So, I am sure James thought his son might think it was cool.  

Congrats James. I hope that this may open up doors for you for more acting jobs in the future.

Nov 15 2007 10:23 pm   #27Guest

Well, before my Buffy infatuation, I was a huge DBZ fan. Having the admiration that I do for James for playing Spike(huge hero in my eyes), knowing he'll be in DB is huge for  me. I hope it does good for his career, James is a great actor, and he deserves the chance to blow up. Dammit, if folk can sit through F4 pt 2 or any one of those crap movies, then dammit then can watch James Marsters on DB, or I'll sic my pet dog on 'em. I never did understand Transformers. The movie was okay, but how the hell did Shia LeBeouf pull a chick like Megan Fox. God..... She's right on up there with Hayden from Heroes...

Never mind my guy rambling...

Daniel Neives

Nov 15 2007 10:35 pm   #28Blood Faerie

*shudders* I've been a fan of Shia and Hayden since they were little tykes on Disney, hard to see them as hot... but my roomie doesn't have the same hang-ups and said she felt like a dirty old woman macking on him and Daniel Radcliff the week we went to see those movies

Unfortunately, we had big vampires in the next room, and I didn't think they'd wait while we had hot monkey sex. ~Cerulean Sins :: (Anita to Jean-Claude)“Is there anything your bloodline does that doesn’t involve getting naked?" ~Danse Macabre :: I’m dating three men, living with two more, and having occasional sex with two others. That’s seven men. I’m like a pornographic Snow White. I think seven is plenty. ~Danse Macabre
Nov 16 2007 02:53 am   #29Immortal Beloved

You know I have been reading everywhere how people think this movie is going to suck and people want something else for James.

My horror is not that James is in the movie or that it would suck for his career or anything like that.  Personally, I've done and would do all sorts of unpleasant things to put a roof over my head.  Sometimes you gotta take a job 'cause it's there.  Not saying that James's hard up (get your filthy little minds out of the gutter ;-)  ), but I don't know his personal reasons for being in the movie.  Lots of wonderful actors have done less-than-wonderful movies.  Sometimes it tanks their career faster than the Titanic with a shipment of lead in the hull.  Sometimes it hardly affects it.  I say, if Dustin Hoffman can bounce back from Ishtar to do Rainman, then our boy can, too.  :-)

My horror lies in the fact that I am drawn to sweet Jimmy like the proverbial moth to the proverbial flame, and if I plunk down ten bucks to watch a live-action anime movie, I'm gonna get burned.  I have complete faith that he'll be absolutely wonderful in the movie.  He can light up a screen like few actors can.  I have no intentions to see the movie 'cause it just ain't my thing.  BUT--and this is a really big butt--I don't know how much I can resist his hypnoticness :-P  So, maybe I'll just have to run down to Wal Mart, buy a hooded grey sweatshirt for $6.66, drive across town to a very far away Blockbuster, open a membership under an assumed name, and plunk down five bucks to watch a live-action anime movie in the privacy of my own home :-P

Give me Spuffy, or give me death.
Nov 16 2007 03:15 am   #30Guest

"Damn his sinister attraction!", eh, IB? I've got over 4 gig of James files on my computer to support his hypnoticness. :D

Matinee for me. And thank God I don't have to go to L.A. or some other exclusive engagement to see james on the big screen again! But I can handle a $5 matinee, and hopefully avoid the twelve-year-olds...

CM

Nov 16 2007 04:27 am   #31SpikesKatMac

 I say, if Dustin Hoffman can bounce back from Ishtar to do Rainman, then our boy can, too.

When you're right, you're right.  And since I personally feel that James has more talent in his big toe that a lot of the idiots in Hollywood right now, who make bomb after bomb, I should probably have faith.  

Speaking of the work that JM is doing now, does anyone know if his stint on Without a Trace is going to result in more than the two episodes he was on at the beginning of the season?  I mean, I thought he was going to have a significant character arc, but he's only been on the show for probably a combined total of 3 minutes, and it's been weeks since the episode he was in last.  Anyone know anything?

A beautiful and ineffectual angel, beating in the void his luminous wings in vain - Matthew Arnold
Nov 16 2007 05:11 am   #32Guest

I think James filmed another episode of Without A Trace and I think that episode comes out in december.   I don't watch much tv and I don't really know anything about the strike. But I think Without A Trace has stopped making new episodes. I think.

As for Dragonball. I am happy for James. I am just happy that the man is getting work when so many actors out there are not getting anything. I would rather see him as one of the leads in a big budget movie than a few minutes of screen time on some show.  So, if the movie sucks. I do not care as long as I get to see James for more than couple of minutes.

I will be there opening day at the box office to go see this movie.  No hiding for me and getting it at blockbuster.

Nov 16 2007 05:25 am   #33Eowyn315

Yep, James was supposed to do 5 episodes of Without a Trace. Two have aired, and he filmed a third one, to be aired on December 6th, I believe, but with the writers' strike, I don't think he'll be filming the final two. Whether he's eventually brought back to finish up his story arc depends on how long the strike goes on, and what the producers want to do with the show at that point. Also, I imagine James' availability might be a factor - he can't do an episode of WAT if he's busy filming Dragonball in Mexico, for example.

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Nov 16 2007 09:44 am   #34Guest

Yep, Dec. 6th. His character had sides for another episode, as well, but that's been changed, so we're not sure if he'll be in more. He's been in more than was announced on guest lists or anything, so it's been a bit frustrating. WaT has stopped production, so the writer's strike is really holding the cards on if he'll get to do more. Might just have to wait for next season.

Probably a factor that helped in taking the movie - he was supposed to do 5 of WaT and 4 of Smallville. He's definitely in 1 SMV ep, and might be in #15.

He's also recording a Dresden Files book before the end of the year.

CM

Nov 20 2007 09:56 am   #35Caro Mio

Steve (his manager) said over the weekend that James still has WaT and SV episodes that can be filmed. And James alluded to the possibility of being in 3 DB movies if the first does well. He also mentioned having to go to "press school" for dealing with the upcoming publicity for the movie - in other words, how to keep his mouth shut. :D  He's really not good with not sharing. 

'Course, he complained about not being able to share, since if you read the manga or watch all the anime, you know everything, anyway. LOL  And his son thinks James is too small to play Piccolo. :P

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Nov 20 2007 07:18 pm   #36Guest

Thanks Caro Mio for that info.   James Marsters having to go back to school on learning on how to keep his mouth shut. LOL   Yay, for maybe being 3 movies. I really hope the movie does well so we can see more big screen James even if he happens to be green.

James is too small to play Piccolo. But a lot of men would be too. It seems that they really are not casting for really big men to play the part. But someone who did well in the audition and it can kind of look like Piccolo. If they wanted James to be bigger and taller that bad. They can make him look bigger and taller. So, I am thinking they might.

Nov 21 2007 03:29 am   #37Scarlet Ibis

James being average height isn't that big of a deal--most of the Hollywood lead actors are average height, so if you put him in a pair of boots that give him an extra inch, and he's standing next to someone 5'9" (I have no idea how tall Justin Chawlin is), then you won't be able to tell on screen anyway (the size difference).

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Nov 21 2007 10:13 pm   #38Eowyn315

Steve (his manager) said over the weekend that James still has WaT and SV episodes that can be filmed.

Yeah, that's assuming the shows stay in production and continue to film the scripts they have. I thought I heard that WAT had shut down. No idea about Smallville. Seems like some shows are filming what they have left, without showrunners, but others are suspending everyone. Of course *crosses fingers* this could all be moot by next week, if they actually come to an agreement when they go back to the table on Monday.

Writing should feel easy, like a monkey driving a speed boat.
Nov 21 2007 10:36 pm   #39JoJoBird

I dont watch anime but i liked Trinity Blood http://www.funimation.com/trinityblood/.       Abel Nightrod do me yuu -uum! (i know the inuendo in the name is delightful)

Ok *settles down now*

Anyways anything for James at this point is good for him. (if Screech releasing a home porn0 can revive a dead career..)

Itll do him good to get "an in" with another Fanatic fanbase, not that i even know what Dragon Balls is. The last kiddy "anime" i noticed was Pokemon! does this date me? :D

I prefer Transformers, He-man , She-ra and all them other greats to todays anime anyways.

 

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Nov 22 2007 01:15 am   #40Guest

Smallville is filming to episode 15. WaT already shut down.

CM

Dec 20 2007 02:16 am   #41Dihcar

Here's a question, if Dragon Ball is succesfull next year.  Does it make chances better for a Spike movie happening, possibly post-after the fall(comic series). 

It would add some starpower to his name and the studios might give into Joss's request of financing which we were led to believe was the problem with the three-dvd movies not happening.. 

James being to old to play Spike doesn't count, James himself has said he's in training for the Dragon Ball role.  I'm guessing more bulk and muscled, Piccolo is supposed to be a big guy so i guess James will get that presence by his superb acting skills and bulk.  Eitherway he will look impressive for his age.

Spike/Fray=The future
Dec 20 2007 03:05 am   #42Spikez_tart
Eitherway he will look impressive

The Tart sobs hysterically - I don't want to see JM made up like a big green lizard.  Boo hoo!

If we want her to be exactly she'll never be exactly I know the only really real Buffy is really Buffy and she's gone' who?
Dec 20 2007 03:07 am   #43Izzy

I used to be a great fan of Dragonball manga, though the television adaptation was just embarrassing. I'm worried what will happen in a live-action adaptation. I heard James was considered for the role of Piccolo partly because of his experience in the make-up and stuff to look like a vampire, as Piccolo is a green alien with rather distinct features and pointed ears and will require a lot of make-up. To be honest, I think James is a wonderful villain and he seems to really understand where a character is coming from, even though he shows it with facial expressions or a pause or subtle signs some directors might miss. Even knowing the plots of Dragonball, I can't tell how much directors changed it to suit their needs and if James will be appreciated in his role. I completely agree that he would make a fantastic Vegeta; a later villain with an intense attitude that James would play to perfection. In the books at least, Piccolo is mostly seen as a calm, dignified presence and where's the fun in that?

Still, I wish James all the best and hope the movie is a success just for people to be able to see what he's capable of. I'm sure he can bring a lot to any role and I hope to see info or previews about the movie soon. 

It's such a crime that actors can grow older like other people! Especially, 'Spike' after Joss hinted at a movie based on our favorite vampire but mentioned that if it didn't happen soon, it was unlikely to happen at all. At least he knows that James cannot be replaced! If a Spike movie was written and Spike and other actors re-cast, I might boycott, no matter that it is one of the Great Joss' works.


Dec 20 2007 03:56 am   #44Guest

Emmy Rossum and Chow Yun-Fat have been added to the cast.

With how he looked at the recent premiere for PS, I Love You, James could definitely still play Spike - but Joss isn't interested anymore. He's got his new stories, the comics and Dollhouse. I seriously think he's way past it.

We have no idea, still, how they're going to make the characters look in this DB movie. Filming just started in Mexico, and there hasn't been much in set reports or pictures. I don't think James is on set, yet.

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Dec 20 2007 04:01 am   #45Eowyn315

Does it make chances better for a Spike movie happening, possibly post-after the fall(comic series). 

Doubtful. Joss has never really been too enthusiastic about the Spike movie. I think if given the choice, he would've rather done something with Faith or Willow, or possibly an Illyria movie with Spike in a supporting role. 

Maybe if the offer was too good to pass up, Joss might change his mind, but now that he's got the comics and a new TV series in the works, he might not be interested in doing a Spike movie.

And James has said that if Joss isn't involved, he doesn't want to do it. Again, that might change for the right price, but if James is successful enough to get that kind of offer, he'd probably also have new roles to choose from that might be more appealing right now.

Writing should feel easy, like a monkey driving a speed boat.
Sep 04 2008 12:40 am   #46Scarlet Ibis
I could have sworn there was a more recent thread for this...

Anyway, here are some of the first official pictures of James as Piccolo: http://www.dragonballmovieblog.net/ 

It's way creepy.  They made him really hideous, as he requested :P
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Sep 04 2008 02:03 am   #47nmcil
He looks great - I think he will be a great Piccolo - don't know why they changed his color-
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Sep 04 2008 03:03 am   #48Legen
don't know why they changed his color-
dude...wtf...he's spose to be green and have big pointy ears....
I like anime, but I'm a fan of Vampire Hunter D, Ghost in the Shell, Hellsing........the stuff aimed at kids is crap! I'd love to see anything from the GITS 'verse as a well done live-action, but "Dragonball"????
um for real. db was not aimed for kids. once it got to the u.s. it under went a huge revision and pretty painted up change and then was aimed at kids. the uncut japanise[?] originals are definitely not for children. and even the u.s. version is pretty ...shocking when your a grown up and understand what's really going on.  if they play it like that then it shouldn't be a bad movie. if they play it as perceived by children for adults, it might bite balls.
i look forward to getting to see it in german :clap:
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Sep 04 2008 04:29 am   #49goldenusagi
He looks like an alien in that pic.  Duh, Piccolo is an alien.  But I mean, he looks like a Star Trek alien, not a GREEN alien from Dragonball.  And what's with the weird molded on clothes?  Okay, so maybe he shouldn't be neon green, but I thought he'd be greener.  Like season 2 Lorne green maybe.
Sep 05 2008 01:29 pm   #50Legen
at least lorne green. see this is why people shouldn't remake stuff, they almost always mess it up in the details that make the show/movie/book.
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Sep 05 2008 02:47 pm   #51Guest
I've seen it speculated that Piccolo could be pale because he's been in a cell for 1000 years, then gets greener once he's out. Like a plant denied of chlorophyll.

The first trailer will be shown with "Max Payne" on Oct 17th. We'll finally get a clue then.

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Sep 05 2008 06:01 pm   #52nmcil
that's a reasonable take on why he has changed color - I think the make-up looks great.

from Legen: 

"at least lorne green. see this is why people shouldn't remake stuff, they almost always mess it up in the details that make the show/movie/book."

wait until you see what will happen to one of the great classic Hollywood SciFi films "The Day The Earth Still Still"  -  we are also getting a remake of "The Women"
Here is the link for new HBO vampire series:

http://www.hbo.com/trueblood/

There is an excellent FF based on a similar theme - wish I could remember the title - the one where Buffy comes out of the portal in GID 30 years later -
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Sep 05 2008 06:45 pm   #53Scarlet Ibis
see this is why people shouldn't remake stuff, they almost always mess it up in the details that make the show/movie/book.
Hey, in the hands of the wrong actor, he could be as green as a piece of spinach, and it still wouldn't matter if the performance sucked.  I never watch DB, but I feel confident that James will give an excellent performance as usual.  The color of his character's skin should be the least of the concerns.  I mean, the characters look more or less the same in the Buffy comics, but the stories still suck, IMHO.  And I don't mean to create a tangent--just trying to make a point :P
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Sep 05 2008 08:07 pm   #54nmcil
Here is a link for article about HBO True Blood Vampire Series -  Hope that they get a ton of viewers so that genre TV programs get a chance to be seen and have some success - HBO usually does good programing. 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IreUK_BAFans/message/10072


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Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Sep 05 2008 08:09 pm   #55Legen
i haven't read all the comics, so i wouldn't really know. but for me, stuff that gets remade, it's all about the details. picilo not being green is huge.
btw, Scarlet, i freakin' love your new icon, and hate your guts for it. :sigh: :usuck:
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Sep 05 2008 08:12 pm   #56Scarlet Ibis
Legen, I do agree that overall, stuff shouldn't be remade.  I heard a rumor that they're trying to remake "It's A Wonderful Life," and I can't help but feel nauseous at the thought.  I'm waiting for the movie version of the beloved "I Love Lucy Show." And though it worke for The Addams Family and The Brady Bunch, I hope they stay far, far away from Lucille Ball's classic.

And thanks for the icon comment--I'm getting used to having a love/hate relationship with people :P
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Sep 05 2008 10:36 pm   #57Eowyn315
There is an excellent FF based on a similar theme - wish I could remember the title - the one where Buffy comes out of the portal in GID 30 years later -

Are you thinking of "Brave New World" by JamesMFan?
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Sep 06 2008 03:54 am   #58goldenusagi
I never watch DB, but I feel confident that James will give an excellent performance as usual. The color of his character's skin should be the least of the concerns. I mean, the characters look more or less the same in the Buffy comics, but the stories still suck, IMHO.

I do know what you mean.  But I used to watch Dragonball.  And even though I haven't watched it or read it in years, I still have a connection to it.  And I have no doubt that James will do great.  But Dragonball was a crazy world with green aliens, cat people, talking pigs, and blue haired girls.  And as a fan, I feel that by changing some of these things, you're losing part of what it was.  (Of course, I was also of the camp that a DB/Z movie would completely suck, since there's no good way to translate that kind of crazy storytelling into an American movie, without stripping it down to just the action.  But who knows?)  And maybe the DB fans speculation is right, and he will get greener.
Sep 06 2008 08:48 pm   #59Legen
But Dragonball was a crazy world with green aliens, cat people, talking pigs, and blue haired girls. And as a fan, I feel that by changing some of these things, you're losing part of what it was.
my point exactly. it doesn't matter how good of a job the actors do in the movie, if they screw up all the small details that make it the dragon ball world, there's just no chance that it's going to be a good movie.  it could be award winning acting, but if you change the whole concept of the show and try to say its still dragonball, no one's going to like it.
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Sep 06 2008 08:51 pm   #60Scarlet Ibis
it could be award winning acting, but if you change the whole concept of the show and try to say its still dragonball, no one's going to like it.
Well, not necessarily.  This is a guess, but I'm thinking that most people aren't really aware of DB down to specific details like that.  If this live action DB has a non green Piccolo throughout, my guess is that it was done to commercialize it (I saw pics of Goku--I don't know if his hair is supposed to be a stark white blonde or black, but it's black in the pics).  Kid fans will drag their parents to see it anyway, and for people like me, who's never seen the cartoon, might be more susceptible to watching it.  Though for me personally, I was going to go see it anyway cause of James, and also because I have two younger siblings who want to see it.  They did note the "Hey, Piccolo's not green!" thing, but they still want me to take them :)
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Sep 07 2008 04:06 am   #61goldenusagi
I disagree that no one will like the movie.  I do agree that some Dragonball fans might not like the movie.

Though it's not like we haven't had green and blue characters on the bigscreen before.  But then, those were American comics, so there might have been more pressure to keep them that way.  And Goku's hair is blonde or black, LOL, depending.  But in early DB it's definitely black.
Feb 18 2009 07:38 am   #62Scarlet Ibis
Some pics of James from the Korea Premier.  He looks good...
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Feb 18 2009 07:57 am   #63Guest
Like the color scheme on him, but the coat is too long for his height. If it was a dark color, it'd help, but..... It fits well, though, on the arms and shoulders. I love the shirt and tie.

First of many premieres, I'm sure! Yay! I bet he's loving traveling to new countries.

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Feb 18 2009 07:09 pm   #64Guest
Transformers did pretty well. Then you got all the comic movies, they were just drawings to begin with.

Transformers actually SUCKED. It was basically a 60 minute car commercial.

Dragon Ball is also going to suck... But I have to watch it anyway because James is in it.
Feb 18 2009 07:25 pm   #65Arielle
Stephen Chow, the filmmaker behind Kung Fu Hustle and Shaolin Soccer, is producing...

He also helped compose the most EPIC song I'ce ever heard! It was the music that played in Kung fu Hustle . listen here >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EQbynwxgDM

Stephen is actually a great director. I've seen his movies and they're pretty hilarious(if you can appreciate that kind of humous)
Maybe because he is the director, it will be a somewhat watchable.
Feb 18 2009 07:27 pm   #66Arielle
Holy crap! I must be channeling Stephen Chow. My English in that last post is horrible! lol
Feb 19 2009 03:41 am   #67nmcil
I am very excited about the Dragon Ball film - hope that it is a big success and that James Marsters can get a big boost for her career from it - I thought he looked great for the publicity event - it was really nice to see him elegantly dressed instead of all those images of him in the ultra casual look from the conventions.  I personally don't care for his convention dress gear - and think it would be of more benefit to him if he dressed a little more elegantly or stylish in his convention appearances.   The high res photos on the site are terrific - I also love that red dress that one of the actresses was wearing -

Spent time with my nephews on my visit last year watching Dragon Ball adventures and I enjoyed seeing the origins of the film -
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.