are the majority of fanfic writers spuffy or otherwise female? i mean i might have read a fic written by a male unknowingly but i would like to know are there any good male fic writers? becuase i would love to see their prespective.....i dont know if i made any sense.

Sometimes I'm reading a fic and I wonder if the writer is male or female. Like, was it obviously a girl way of looking at the relationship or a guy who might be exasperated and confused sometime about girl-logic, but knows how to write it in a story? And sometimes I'll read something that so fits how a guy would view a situation and its solution that I wonder if a girl is going off of observation of the other sex and stereotypes or if it's actually a guy who can accurately put down his thought process as a guy character's.
Then, there is the very physical, smutty parts of fics where both female and male reactions are brought up and I gotta wonder which is guesswork and which was really felt... which isn't even bringing up the steamy sex-scenes that involve biting that I am pretty sure no one has actually experience to use or the very inexperienced people who write the kinkiest stuff with lots of details.
I know there are great guy authors but I sort of assumed most fanfic writers for Spuffy were women because most of the fics I read focus on Buffy and her weird, heart-broken, traumatized girl logic and the Spike parts were either the ideal heart of gold guy or the ideal constantly horny guy.

Lost Boy has one wi[p fic that is quite good - so, I'm going to say he is worth reading.  Beer_good_foamy writes so well it's scary (and I adopted him. lol), but he writes the entire spectrum of characters, so not always Spuffy.  Speaker_to_customers (that's not spelled right, he leaves off some letters and I don't remember which ones) writes amusing stuff. I think much of it is Spuffy, but I'm not sure it all is.  The good male writers that come to mind all seem to write more gen fics than specific pairings.    There may well be others, as you say, that we just don't know about because we can't tell from their pen names.   I think sometimes it's very easy to tell from the fics themselves; the guys tend to be more about the fighting, the weapons, and the wham-bam, thank-you, ma'am, sex. LOL

The only ones I know for sure are redwulf (redwulf50 on lj) , speakr2customers, lostboy,  Elysian (mpreble) ,pgavigan and owenthurman. There's obviously more , it's just hard to tell since the names obviously don's give it away .

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Don't forget daniel_nieves - although he won't be posting for a while since sadly he's on his way to Iraq.

It seems like approximately 102% of writers are female.  I remember getting my hair pulled about it at first, but, as Faulkner once said, "writers is writers is writers."

One thing's for  sure - I am absolutely confused about "girl logic."  Still, it's a lotta fun to try and sort it out!  

Hee hee, which part of the "girl logic"?

Vast majority are female writers, good and bad.

CM

King of Cretins wrote a Spike/Buffy fanfic (or at least a fanfic that contains Spike/Buffy): Back to Black (PG-13 with an NC-17 scene)

Thanks for the topic - I have always wanted to know the male writers in The Buffyverse and ff from The Jossverse -

Does anyone know of male writers working with Firefly? 

Speaking of Lost Boy, he is such a good writer - any idea what he might be doing - long time since he updated.

What are the ideas regarding those 2 men, think they were psychologist (if anyone has better info, please let me know) who were of the opinion that most of the FF writers were people primarily imposing their sexual desires and fantasies on the TV characters.
 
How much of "sexual fantasy" has an influence in Spuffy works?  I bring this up because I usually have a negative reaction to "writer's notes" that give prompts about coming spuffy sex.   In all honesty, how much of the "sexual encounters" are part of why you read or write FF and Spuffy particularly? 

I'm sure there are many male writers working in Firefly - it's more of a guy show, I think.  Don't know who they are, though.

Lost Boy peeps in from time to time (see above post). As far as I know, he is still working on Clocks.  Feel free to nag at him. :)

I don't doubt that many people are imposing their fantasies on the their characters. But I doubt that everyone is.  I, personally, have no desire to have sex in a sewer while I hang on to a ladder with one hand - but I wrote it.  My characters in that fic would have done so.  

I don't read ff or Spuffy for the sex - I read it for the relationship (make it work, dammit!) or, in some cases, for the lack of one (angst whore).  However, because they had a very sexual relationship at one point, I have no problem with a story going NC17 if it is done well and is believable based on the time frame and/or the way the characters have been written.  But it is not my main reason for reading it.  I'm much more interested in how well a story is written  - interesting plot, believable characters, good dialogue, tugs on the emotions (or makes me laugh) than I am in how "hot" it is.  Most of the fics written just for the sex are pretty boring, IMHO.

So, I think there is a great deal of truth in what they said, but that the real situation is neither as simple nor as all-encompassing as they may think. 

When I first started reading spuffy fanfic, which was the first fanfic I ever read, I was surprised by how many good stories had some part that was so graphic about sex. I got over being shocked pretty quickly and now expect it in every story I come across. I did read something from an author I could never figure out was a girl or a guy, but I was pretty sure they took a Psych. class. Can't remember what the author or title but in it they mention that girls having dreams about being raped were normal, because it represented a girl wanting something forbidden and made out to be wrong or dirty in some way, like wanting someone they shouldn't want. It didn't have to do with violence or power or hate like a lot of times people think of with rape.
I think a lot of fics involve the idea of wanting the forbidden or just being allowed to write anything and not being censored for it, so the sex scenes that come out don't really have to do with personal fantasies so much as having the idea of the fantasy and wanting to write it. There aren't limits in fanfic, and in the buffyverse when metaphors for real life were given such a literal interpretation, i.e certain demons, so people write all sorts of things.

Most of the fics written just for the sex are pretty boring, IMHO.

I agree with you on the sex in most of the fanfic is either in missionary or girl on top positons nothing overly exciting. And im pretty sure Spuffy sex is meant to be exciting

There are definitely fics with exciting Spuffy sex. Maybe you're just not reading the right ones.

Honestly I couldn't care if they try 152 different positions and explore every kink known to man, smut for smut's sake is, IMHO, simply boring.

I would much sooner have a STORY with no smut in it at all, than a fic with no (or hardly any) story and cram packed with gratuitous sex.

What you said.  It didn't occur to me that someone could misinterpret what I wrote to think that I meant that most of the fic in ff was boring sex - rather than that reading something that is nothing but sex is boring. Ah well, live and learn. Next time I will be more specific. LOL

Here is a nice article from the NYT -


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B01E0DC123EF931A25752C0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

That article is from 2003...

Actually, guest, the interpretation for being raped, or nearly, in a dream is that you are feeling out of control about something, or everything, in your real life. The idea that it's about a forbidden desire is so Freudian...a pervert if I've ever seen one. The man was *obsessed* with sex being at the root of everything, etc. While Freud and the other psych pioneers are talked about in Psych 101, because of the history, a lot of their theories are grossly outdated, and even proven incorrect, or extreme or too general.

I'm with you, Slayme. I rarely read PWPs. Not into fanfic for porn. Frequently skim over it in regular stories, unless the actual event is important to the character development/storyline.  But man, I've seen sex ideas I'd never thought of in the course of looking for good stories. I don't know how many times a story made me blush in the first months I was reading Spuffy.

CM

The man was *obsessed* with sex being at the root of everything,  - yes, Guest, but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.