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Movies: Twilight and New Moon-are they worth watching?
Twilight came out on DVD recently (and before I went to Vienna and saw the posters I had no idea of its existence lol) so I’m thinking of ordering it.
They’ve made a sequel apparently called “New Moon”—I’ve read the summary and it sounds interesting enough—not to mention Cedric Diggory plays a vampire which is just funny because he dies in Harry Potter.
For me it’s as if he was turned and then changed his name and they made a sequel all for him lol...
Anyhoo… I watched the trailers. They look kinda iffy but I can’t help but want to watch them just to see if they’re good or not.
My expectations for vampire movies has evolved since I started reading Spuffy--I expect there to be some blood involved and bites and vampiric erotica otherwise I’ll get bored lol
So, I’d appreciate it if y’all’d let me know. It kinda looks like it was made for little 13 year olds O.o
Oh, and as you recommended nmcil, I bought “Let The Right One In”…. It was… ‘interesting’.
It was fairly realistic, too. It wasn’t all sexed up and glamourized or anything. They mark it as a horror but it’s not so much horrifying as it is just plain morbid O.o I’ll be back and check this thread in several hours… Buncha peeps comin’ over so I gotta prepare the rooms :P
Oh, and if you wanna laugh your head off take a look at this on youtube :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTHn5oFPmi8
- If you want to win a war, you must serve no master but your own ambition..
-The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.- A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend.
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I didn't like how the actors of Bella and Edward played the characters. They acted nothing like I imagine and they never showed my favorite parts of their personality or thought processes, and they seemed unable to capture how the romance between them was supposed to work. Some of this was probably the director's coaching and how they set up the scenes, but I don't think the rest of the movies with the same actors and directors are worth watching.
The film... isn't all bad. The best I have to say about it is that the soundtrack is pretty good.
EDIT: The Edward/Bella romance is pretty reminiscent of Buffy/Angel, in my opinion. If that helps, at all!
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They aren't even really vampires, except for the blood drinking and because Stephenie Meyer said so. But that's just my opinion.
I enjoyed the movie and loved the books. Stephenie Meyer created her own vampire mythology, which in no way resembles the mythology of Joss or really any other traditional vampire mythology.
I saw the movie after it had come out on DVD and then I read the books. The original Twilight book was written as a young adult novel, although many of the biggest fans of the book where I am from are adults. I thought that they did a fairly decent job with the movie given the major constraints they had with the budget and cutting down the book to fit the movie’s time limit. I also thought that they did a decent job with casting the movie. I do admit that when a movie is cast from a book, I look more for the characters to match personality wise then for them to match physically. In that respect I thought that they did an admirable job. Although I seem to be in the minority, I liked the way the character of Bella was played.
As for New Moon, I am looking forward to it. The trailers look real promising.
-The Twilight books are great and I definitely reccomend reading them. However, the Twilight movie was not good. I guess it was adequate, and it followed the storyline, though little things were changed to play up the vampire action part.
God, I hate when they do that. Not everything is about action. People are so retarted! Have they no sense of feeling!
-I didn't like how the actors of Bella and Edward played the characters. They acted nothing like I imagine and they never showed my favorite parts of their personality or thought processes, and they seemed unable to capture how the romance between them was supposed to work.
Again… people no longer have any sense of feeling or what romance is…. It’s sad. Films have really gone down hill over the past few years… like people have just stopped thinking.
-Personally, I'd not recommend either the Twilight books or the film. The books aren't particularly well-written and I have so many problems with both Bella and Edward as characters (Buffy she ain't!).
I thought the same thing when I read Anne Rice long ago. I was like “god, how did she become so famous?”
Then I watched Interview with the Vampire and loved it J
-The film... isn't all bad. The best I have to say about it is that the soundtrack is pretty good.
A good soundtrack can make any movie seem better. That’s also what I miss. They make less and less movies with good music. The music is the soul of a movie. Like in Kill Bill or Legend with Tangerine Dream.
EDIT: The Edward/Bella romance is pretty reminiscent of Buffy/Angel, in my opinion. If that helps, at all!
What gave it away for me was the fact that she is a teenage girl who falls in love with a tall, dark and mysterious vampire lol
Wow, I didn't think anyone didn't know of the existence of Twilight. How have you missed all the hype?
*shrugs* I live in a very secluded area where not all films make it to the big screen here :P
It’s sad, I know.
-There's nothing erotic about Twilight, LOL. Rather the opposite. The books very much have the no sex vamping until marriage message. The movie is not quite so obvious, but it follows the book. There is one bite, and it doesn't make much sense.
Only one bite? Then how can it be called a vampire movie O.o
And no sex until marriage? That’s a load of religious bull! Only knowing if you’re sexually compatible with your partner when it’s too late to turn back makes no sense!
Yeah, a lot of it doesn't make much sense. They don't even really have fangs.
To that, I owe you a WHAT?! Lol
Where’s the fun in that?
- If you want to win a war, you must serve no master but your own ambition..
-The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.- A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend.
-The Twilight books are great and I definitely reccomend reading them. However, the Twilight movie was not good. I guess it was adequate, and it followed the storyline, though little things were changed to play up the vampire action part.
God, I hate when they do that. Not everything is about action. People are so retarted! Have they no sense of feeling!
-I didn't like how the actors of Bella and Edward played the characters. They acted nothing like I imagine and they never showed my favorite parts of their personality or thought processes, and they seemed unable to capture how the romance between them was supposed to work.
Again… people no longer have any sense of feeling or what romance is…. It’s sad. Films have really gone down hill over the past few years… like people have just stopped thinking.
-Personally, I'd not recommend either the Twilight books or the film. The books aren't particularly well-written and I have so many problems with both Bella and Edward as characters (Buffy she ain't!).
I thought the same thing when I read Anne Rice long ago. I was like “god, how did she become so famous?”
Then I watched Interview with the Vampire and loved it J
-The film... isn't all bad. The best I have to say about it is that the soundtrack is pretty good.
A good soundtrack can make any movie seem better. That’s also what I miss. They make less and less movies with good music. The music is the soul of a movie. Like in Kill Bill or Legend with Tangerine Dream.
EDIT: The Edward/Bella romance is pretty reminiscent of Buffy/Angel, in my opinion. If that helps, at all!
What gave it away for me was the fact that she is a teenage girl who falls in love with a tall, dark and mysterious vampire lol
Wow, I didn't think anyone didn't know of the existence of Twilight. How have you missed all the hype?
*shrugs* I live in a very secluded area where not all films make it to the big screen here :P
It’s sad, I know.
-There's nothing erotic about Twilight, LOL. Rather the opposite. The books very much have the no sex vamping until marriage message. The movie is not quite so obvious, but it follows the book. There is one bite, and it doesn't make much sense.
Only one bite? Then how can it be called a vampire movie O.o
And no sex until marriage? That’s a load of religious bull! Only knowing if you’re sexually compatible with your partner when it’s too late to turn back makes no sense!
Yeah, a lot of it doesn't make much sense. They don't even really have fangs.
To that, I owe you a WHAT?! Lol
Where’s the fun in that?
- If you want to win a war, you must serve no master but your own ambition..
-The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.- A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend.
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My list from these would have been:
1. Spike
2. Lestat
3. Louis
4. Claudia
5. Selene
Here is the magazine Top Ten:
Edward
Louis
Angel
Claudia
James
Spike
Lestat
Deacon Frost
Selene
David
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I guess this comes back to the fact that I don't think Twilight is worth reading. Watch the movie if you want to get an idea. If you don't like it, you've only lost two hours, LOL.
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I read the books because my sister gave me the first last Christmas, and the first 3 are okay.......there are choices, as a writer, that I would have done differently than Meyer, and Bella's the only character I really have a problem with.......in that there's little to like in her. The last book, well, even a lot of Twilight fans went WTF on that one. My biggest problem is that Meyer had Bella end up with Edward instead of Jacob because that's just how it was going to be. She doesn't make a case in the book for why he's the better love for Bella than Jacob, she just has Bella insisting that it has to be Edward she's with forever because. When you write a romance, both characters should grow together and grow better together. Edward does, Jacob does, Bella doesn't.
It disturbs me that so many very young girls see this story as an ideal romance.
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The first book (and maybe the third) was okay-ish.But the last one was one of the worst written books I've ever read. I was like "Oh my god, when is this book finished?!"
It's too cheesy, too having-no-plot-y. SImply blaaah. So, I wouldn't recommend the books and the movie(s). :)
I like my vampires dark and evil and erotic. Not like gay shiney fairies… But hey, I’ll watch it and see if it’s ok. Do they glitter in the movie or just in the book?
The whole vampire mythology sprung up as a metaphor for certain human psychologies.
The whole spiel about some people being mental energy suckers. People who are only friends with you to get reactions from you that accommodate their lust for certain attentions.
The whole prospect of energy suckers evolved to emotional vampires which then translated to a blood sucking corps.
So, if in this book this woman turns vampires into sparkly sprite beings it seems less believable lol But hey, she’s transformed the whole idea of vamps so it might be worth it.
I guess this comes back to the fact that I don't think Twilight is worth reading. Watch the movie if you want to get an idea. If you don't like it, you've only lost two hours, LOL.
Well, it cant be worse than some of the films that have come out today which are just pure, undiluted action.
-I read the books because my sister gave me the first last Christmas, and the first 3 are okay.......there are choices, as a writer, that I would have done differently than Meyer, and Bella's the only character I really have a problem with.......in that there's little to like in her. The last book, well, even a lot of Twilight fans went WTF on that one. My biggest problem is that Meyer had Bella end up with Edward instead of Jacob because that's just how it was going to be. She doesn't make a case in the book for why he's the better love for Bella than Jacob, she just has Bella insisting that it has to be Edward she's with forever because. When you write a romance, both characters should grow together and grow better together. Edward does, Jacob does, Bella doesn't.
It disturbs me that so many very young girls see this story as an ideal romance.
I see what you mean.
I understand that men also have to take responsibility in a relationship to become real men. Learn how to get in touch with their emotions and become better connected with their partner because more often than not, the guy in a relationship is more disconnected with his emotions that is caused by people repeatedly saying to them “be a man” “boys don’t cry” which is total bull.
It’s just been mentally beaten out of them to be a certain way when they are just as equal as woman, just different.
But when I say that men have to become men, I mean to unlearn what they have been taught and be free and to feel and be true to themselves in order to better connect in their relationship.
Girls have to do something similar. They have to help their man understand their capabilities and be patient with one another so they can equally grow and become one.
If guys don’t get over the whole “I am all that is man and strong” then it will create turmoil on the inside and will come out as violent slashes and resentment towards women. Which is why a lot of guys can be jerks to girls.
The system is so screwed up and needs to be fixed. O.o
My list from these would have been:
1. Spike
2. Lestat
3. Louis
4. Claudia
5. Selene
I totally agree. Spike should always be #1 on any list!!
But I have no idea who selene is lol
- If you want to win a war, you must serve no master but your own ambition..
-The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.- A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend.
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Letting craven use her as a punching bag and then allowing herself to be judged by her father. She should have been like "WTF" instead of just being submissive. she lost points from me for that.
I saw the trailer for the new film today, have to say that I was impressed with the werewolf transformation cgi effects -
For those who have read the books - does the series develop into more than a "Great Love Story" once Bella is turned into a vampire?
If anyone wants to read a real horror story about women and love, don't think you can do better than reading Anna Karenina -
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Once Bella's a vamp, she's the Bestest Vampire They've Ever Seen, having control of her bloodlust right away. New Twilight vamps are also stronger than older ones, but the bloodlust usually makes them be rash and stupid. So since she isn't like that, she wonderful at everything now. And she and Edward can finally have sex without damaging anything but the house. With all this in Bella's POV, Edward ends up almost a background character, and basically going along with anything Bella does or decides.
It's a mess. I wouldn't want a young child to read the last book because of the gore, though. And the movie of it would have to be rated R if they're going to be accurate.
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This really does not sound like it's sending positive messages to naive teen girls. The woman who wrote this thinks suddenly, once you have a kid, you become all knowing and wise?
Nuh uh. That is not at all how it works. Having a family is just the beginning of a long learning experience for both parents and it's not something to be jumped into.
I Think I prefer Buffy to this (from the sound of it) because even if it is fantasy, it'[s not so farfetched that it's utterly ridiculous.
Sure, it happens.
But for that to be the message in a book made for young women is just outrageous. Especially when a lot of them depend on the books they read and the external influences on their life to shape who they become in the future.
*quote* And she and Edward can finally have sex without damaging anything but the house. With all this in Bella's POV, Edward ends up almost a background character, and basically going along with anything Bella does or decides.
This is already started to sound like a really horrible role model/book.
Like I said before, being in a relationship should be about both partners treating each other equally and becoming one.
This sounds kinda like the writer was on a whole "girl power" shaziel. Which I'm all for but... When you're in love it's not about who's better.
*quote* Not to turn this into a Twilight what happens discussion - Oh, I'm all for knowing what happens lol ;)
*quote* No, they have sex before the turning, they get married and do it for the first time on their honeymoon. Because obviously, it would have been a sin to have sex before marriage.
Again with the propaganda. That's usually why people divorce in the first place. "oh, we have all our time after we're married to discover each other"
Load of crock!
That's when you find out you don't like each other and then it makes it even more complicated because you're already bound by law and church. GAH!
Just curious... What kind of marriage do they have in the last book? A church one at night or does Edward's family wed them in his house?
- If you want to win a war, you must serve no master but your own ambition..
-The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.- A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend.
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Edward is over 100 years old, and explains that when he was human, he had the idea of doing a relationship the traditional way - courting, engagement, marriage, kids, and tells Bella he won't make love to her without them being married first. (He's also afraid of hurting her during the act because of his strength, for one, and 2, he's a virgin, too, and could easily lose control. He was turned at 17.) She wants the sex, so she agrees. In return, he agrees to turn her, if she still wants it, after they're married. The Volturi will come kill her, anyway, because humans knowing about the vamps isn't allowed, so they don't have a lot of choice there......just maybe a couple years' leeway.
They go on their honeymoon on a private island, and Bella's bruised all over after the sex. She doesn't feel too badly, though, just a little sore - which would be natural when you're using muscles never used before - but Edward's feeling extremely guilty that she's black and blue. Each time they're together after that, she has to tempt him into it, cuz he hates hurting her and resents that he can't seem to be gentle enough. We don't get to find out if they would have learned to make it work because Bella gets pregnant with the fast-growing vamp/human kid, and they head home.
The kid is draining the life out of Bella during the pregnancy, but she refuses to let them take it out. Eventually, they figure out that if she drinks blood, it helps, as the baby needs that for nourishment. When Bella's finally feeling good enough to walk a bit, something goes wrong and she ends up bleeding out. Edward delivers the baby by cutting through the placenta with his teeth, and Bella dies from too much blood loss. Well, dying.........he turns her like she wanted, feeding his venom into her, and then they wait to see if it worked.
Book 4 is Bella's POV, Jacob's POV, Bella's POV. Bella's 2nd POV picks up when she's feeling the change to vampirism.
The author isn't on a girl power thing at all....Bella is only happy because she has her man locked in, a baby she didn't know she wanted, and becoming a vampire has made her strong and beautiful and eternal. As a human, Bella was full of insecurities, selfishness, and tendency towards depression.
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She's whiny and annoying to begin with in the first book, but come 'New Moon' she's just terrrible. When Edward leaves she goes catatonic, basically being all 'life isn't worth living' because her man left her and she's alone. She acts a bit more maturely when her and Jacob become friends, but then when Edward comes back she not only forgives him for leaving (which is fine), but is oh so grateful that he's returned to her. It's very 'I need a man in my life to complete me'.
The way she also treats Jacob is deplorable; she knows he's in love with her and yet will be oh-so-hurt if he doesn't come to her wedding. Then in the last book she keeps wanting Jacob to stick around while she's pregnant, never caring that A. he loves her and doesn't want to see her suffer and B. she's all happy with Edward. She goes all 'poor me' whenever he tries to stay away from her.
She's more than willing to abandon the human people in her life without a second thought when she gets turned. The plan was basically move to Alaska and ingore her parents forever and never let them know what happened to her. That's another selfish (yes, she does keep a relationship with her Dad in the end, but she still hadn't planned to).
Last but not least, she insists that Edward will eventually turn her from book one on. He doesn't want to. She's going to force him to do it no matter how he feels about it (and in the end he does have to if he wants to save her life).
Oh, and the whole no sex until marriage thing is kind of repressive too, especially when Edward keeps putting her down for wanting to. She like thinks she's going to die or something in book three and is like 'I don't want to die a virgin' and Edward scolds her (why he is considered the perfect man again?). Then she just goes along with the Edward knows best mentality. Not cool.
So Bella, not so much with the girl power. At all.
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Ps- Back to the original question of the post: are they worth reading/watching? I saw go ahead and read them if you want to read mind numbing fluff that involves no thought process. I like the books, but they're nothing all that great. They're okay (on a side note, New Moon is my fav because lack of Edward- he bothers me and I like Jacob, who has personalaity). Skip the movies. They're not that great and the acting can be rather horrible.
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OK, Twilight arrived today in the mail so I watched it about an hour ago.
It wasn’t bad. I actually thought that it was alright.
Sure, it had it’s questionable moments like all movies do but that’s what makes them quirky and fun lol
Normally in vamp myths you have to drink and vampires blood in order to become like them.
In this movie I didn’t really like that fact that you just have to bite them to turn them. It’s more like a snake bite where they release vampiric venom into their blood stream.
The soundtrack, as you said, xaphania was nice. I appreciate movies that can make a film pleasing to the ears as well as the eyes.
Something that annoyed me was that the girl they got to play Bella should never have gotten the role in the first place.
She slouches, she wears ugly coats that look like houses and she has little to no personality.
Is that how the character is in the book or is it just the actress?
Because she barely has any presence on screen whatsoever.
She’s not ugly nor super pretty. She just doesn’t really have any distinguishing features.
For instance, Spike has the wonderful cheek bones and nice hair: Buffy as funny droopy eyes: Willow has a sweet round face that kinda droops down like a hound dog. Not saying it’s a bad thing.: Angel has a big forehead etc…
They all have traits that make them noticeable. Like a bright aura…
I read some reviews on rotten green tomatoes and a person said “It’s dense with vampire eroticism”
I was like HUH?
I didn’t think there was enough. I would have loved for Edward to have done a little more.
But they made it mostly for teens so… They cut out some important key parts. I’m not saying they should have done anything super dirty… Just that more than two stolen kisses would have been nice.
But it was fairly romantic. The ending scene was very sweet J
But it’s not THE best. But certainly better than Queen Of The Damned. I’d give Twilight a 7 out of 10… and QOTDnd a 2… Only because of the awesome soundtrack…
But Interview with the vampire and Dracula will always be my favs. They really made me cry.
I think he’s actually going up there with Spike. He truly is a sexy vampire :D
The shallow part of me thinks the only reason I want to watch the sequel is to gawk at Edward (robert) LOL
I hope the new director makes it a little less actiony and a little more profound and romantic. I prefer mental stimulation than action.
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I write my replies in word just in case I accidentally push a button that closes my window or posts it b4 it's actually finish... cause sometimes I write so fast that problems occur lol
That's Bella, LOL.
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Now, I've seen the actress, Kristen Stewart, made up to look pretty gorgeous in a couple photo shoots..............but that's not how Bella is, LOL. There were complaints about the first director, and the cast has had high praise for the second director on New Moon. The wardrobe for Bella is also accurate to the book - she's from Arizona, so she's cold there.
Yeah, Edward is in New Moon only as an echo in Bella's mind, until they go to Italy. The actor said it was the easiest job he's done, cuz the pressure is all on "Jacob". But you do get to see Edward without a shirt.
A couple of kisses are all that's in the first book, lol. That's just sticking to canon.
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Here's a link to the new NM trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2xa_JU995s&feature=player_embedded
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http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20234559_20234565_20279381_1,00.html
Only see it close up. http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20234559_20234565_20279381_2,00.html
But they've also put the sparkle on him in post in the film, so who knows how much is visible. I don't mind chest hair, though....I live with a fuzzy man. :D
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I have a question for you guys >
In this snapshot I uploaded of Edward, he looks very familiar… Like another actor I’ve seen somewhere and I can’t figure out for the life of me who he looks like in his picture.
I want to say Brendan Fraiser but that’s not it…
Here it is.
http://i28.tinypic.com/11vof9l.jpg
*quote* I saw the new trailer for New Moon and seriously, Edward should not be taking his shirt off. Jacob on the other hand can feel free to do that whenever he likes. I'm so ashamed to be lusting after a 17-year-old...lol!
You dirty girl!!
I feel no shame in liking Robert cause he's about my age so I don't have to feel like a pedophile lol But I don't think there's really any shame in recognizing that someone is gorgeous.
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LOL, nothing wrong with it when it's Spike, but Edward looked way too hairy. It was kind of gross, a vampire should be very smooth.
haha... Edward is in no way hairy, trust me.... Visit Spain and look at the men there.... Or even Holland :P Like Austin Powers *shudder*
I don't mind. I just think a little chest hair is thoroughly masculine and attractive.
*quote* Yeah, I don't do chest hair at all...lol! I'm not big on facial hair, either.
I'm right there with you. I don't mind a little fuzz and heavy forecast but a beard is too much *euah*
I honestly think that I am totally and completely hooked on the movie. Not only is the music good but the actor is FINE!
He's really the only reason to watch it lol
I thought it was romantic... and as I said before.... Bella does not deserve him.... No personality whatsoever!
I can't wait for the sequel. I hope the villains are better.
My favorite part of the movie is when she finds out he's a vampire. Then the next day she just walks past him and goes into the forest. Like she knows she doesn't have to say anything to him because she knows he can't help but follow her wherever she goes.
I do like that part. But there's an awesome icon someone made with that screencap of them going into the woods that has the text "And Bella Swan was never seen alive again." :)
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I was wondering if any of you could tell me why Edward’s eyes change from black to brown.
Is it explained in the book?
I sure wish I could read it online so I don’t have to order it lol
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And that still doesn't explain why they were black.
She says "did you get contacts? You're eyes were black the last time I saw you and now they're golden brown"
So, I get that when they're hungry they're red and when they're satisfied they go back to goldish.. but why black??
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It's longer and more detailed :)
Can't wait till it comes out!!!
True, it does seem a bit fairy-ish but you get used to it. I thought it was original.
I couldn't wait for the books (1 and 2) to arrive in the mail. so I went looking online for one of the books I hadn't ordered> Midnight sun.
It's a rewrite of the the Twilight book according to Edward's perception.
At first it's a bit tedious then it gets interesting.
Here's the link http://clareswindlehurst.com/bookreviews/2008/08/30/midnight-sun-draft-made-available-after-leak/
go down a bit and click on * Click here to download the Midnight Sun draft *
But it is fairly slow. I don't mind. I love books where they take time to get to know each other, learn the different psychologies between the characters etc...
As usual, the book is better than the movie.
In the film Bella seems like a retarded teeny boper :P
Oh, and the link has chapters 1 to 13 :)
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I'm confused. Why is there a thread about Twilight in here, but nothing about True Blood or the Sookie Stackhouse novels? Or is it that I just can't find the thread? Seriously, I would have thought that people who love Spike, Spuffy and BtVS would be excited about True Blood too - because I sure am! I have a found a few like me on LJ but it would be nice to have a discussion here as well.
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Supernatural fic? Or will you humanize it? Or will it have more of a True Blood like quality mixed in with a Buffy premise? OOOh and when will you start posting? EEEK so glad someone finally doing one...Has anyone else? Hmm maybe I have been too preoccupied to notice lol. Too many damn tv programs that are good this season, lol.
As for this posting...I thought Twilight was ok...Didn't read the books. Same as the Sookie books. Ok I read Feehan, Shayne, Kenyon, Ashley, and mystery type books by Mary Higgins Clark and Carol Higgins Clark with a splash of Steele in there too. These books for some reason I missed? Same as the Twilight series. They were some big hit and guess what I only found out about them when the movie came out. Weird. Then again I was hooked on fan fiction and well I was obsessively reading all the Dark Hunter Series and Feehans series because Shayne seemed to have dropped from the face of the earth there for awhile. These authors may have some adult themes in them but the plots and stories are incredible! I swear I think even though Kenyon has Acheron's picture up on her site I envision him with these swirling mass of eyes that are either light or dark maybe crystal like to blue and he's blonde maybe platinuma blonde hottie. Simi of course I picture her this pixied short, long haired brunette or black, and quite possibly indescribeable green eyes maybe. Green? Snake like cuz hello she is a tattoo on Ash's arm at times lol. Wow, I so need to read these books again! I'm losing the characters and the plot already lol.
Tammy look forward to seeing the new fic! love them all! If I do review they are under my other pen name not this name. Unfortunately, couldn't decide between the two, lol.
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Well, Tammy, thank you for answering, but I didn't mean that you can't enjoy Twilight and Buffy. I am just surprised that there isn't a vivid True Blood discussion going on in here. I've been reading threads here for years and "the crowd" here seemed to me to be more TB than Twilight - that's all.
I won't be starting my own thread, because as Terry would say: I can't handle the pressure. (I adore Terry and want to hug him always.)
"...I'm a huge fan of the show and books, currently working on a Buffy/True Blood crossover fiction right now. "
This is good news! I was just wishing for a crossover between the shows the other day over at Blood Bonds and I still want one. Someone needs to travel to Bon Temps and talk some sense into TBSookie. She is way to dependent of Beeelll. Spike, Buffy, Anya?
So, I'm gonna stop writing about TB in the Twilight thread now. Thanks again, Tammy.
*quote* but nothing about True Blood or the Sookie Stackhouse novels?
Is true blood really any good?... Would you guys recommend I watch it? When I look at pictures it all seems too sexed up and mindless so I never give it a second thought :P
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As for twilight
I've read the first three books so far (well, half of the 3rd) and so far I like them. As that other person up top said "
It disturbs me that so many very young girls see this story as an ideal romance."
I'm all for that.
But I'm not susceptible so I'm not going to be taking cues from the book. It's just a fantasy romance novel to me and it's a fun read.
One of the book's redeeming qualities is that it discourages certain prejudices and racism. Eventually the wolves and vampires come to work together as a team.
This may be a spoiler for some so don't read lol---
Some automatically think that Jacob is a pedophile because he imprints on Renesme while she's little. But I can understand what is meant by this. Just love and affection. A bond created by the soul. So it discourages negative judgement. And only later when renesme is older and makes the decision herself to be with Jacob will he express something more for her.
A pedophile is just a perv who gets off on the idea of buggering kids. So I wish people would stop saying Jacob's a dirty child rapist.
People tend to have this certain mindset that goes > kid + older person + not family + love = pedophile
It's like in the old days, religious men used to think > woman = servant/cook/sex slave..
People need to evolve and broaden their minds a little more.
But anyway, I thought New Moon was the best book of them all. I love how Jacob treats Bella more than Edward..... He seems too controlling which is a real turn off...
People are saying in reviews that the last book wasn't that great and it was too idealistic.
The whole book seems like wishful thinking.
But in the end, if you think about it, it's not such a bad thing. You can have books that are extremely realistic and nothing too fairy taleish happens and it's all blood, gore, tears, hate and unresolved issues which is all fine and dandy because it stays practical.... Or you can have a story with a perfect ending.
I mean, both can happen. If you've already imagined it, that it already exists. Nothing is impossible. And sometimes it's nice to show people what they can be rather that what they are.
It's like I said before, people used to think that women were useless slaves..... But once you show them the idea of what we can be, we become the idea.
Just like if you get little kids to play violent games at a young age--the more susceptible ones become violent later on in life.
So I see nothing wrong with this book being so light hearted and care free. It could happen and I really try not to generalize. It closes to many possibilities.
So I won't mind if when I'm done reading the end of the book, everybody has their way. It's good to show people something positive in this day and age... Even if it's not perfect...... It's better than teletubbies and Britney Spears lol
I hope all this makes sense lol
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-The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.- A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend.
Good Point about the early age connections or spiritual connections - ritual connections have always been important ways for cultures to bond both in real life, religious life and in literature. One of the best examples was used in the original Star Trek amongst the Vulcans.
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Anyone like the C.Q. Yarbro St. Germain books? I have read several and have enjoyed them - my main issue with her novels is that they often follow the same formula.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Actually Laurell K Hamilton's last book "Skin Trade" had very little sex in it, it was almost like reading one of the earlier books in the series. I think LKH is finally getting a clue that all the sex is turning people off rather of on.
If you want to read a REALLY good vampire book, read Sunshine by Robin McKinley, it was the best book I've read in a long while.
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Buffy VS Twilight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZwM3GvaTRM
Hilarious... :D
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I would recomend you buy Sunshine, but if you can't wait, you can download it here:
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