links to BtVS articles/videos

Mar 13 2010 12:07 am #1Sensei

Every now and then I come across (or someone sends me) good articles, interviews, or videos about BtVS, its characters or actors. I know there are lots of other good ones I don't even know about, so it might be fun to have a place where we can share ones we find with one another.

Here are two new ones someone told me about:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BUFFY! BtVS premiered 13 years ago this week. Have you ever seen the original promo trailer for BtVS before it even showed on the air? Go to:

http://scifiwire.com/2010/03/buffys-13-today-watch-the.php

Blockbuster rated the 10 top vampires based on the coolness of their coats. Guess who was #1!
http://blog.blockbuster.com/2010/03/why-ladies-love-vampires.html

Does anyone have others to share?

Mar 13 2010 01:17 am #2nmcil

I would like to add this one - a lecture and Q&A that Joss Whedon did at Harvard for the Secular Society when they presented him with an award.

http://forum-network.org/lecture/joss-whedon-cultural-humanist

” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.

Mar 15 2010 12:42 am #3Sensei

Here is an article dated March 14 announcing James will be in the Hawaii Five-O pilot (and it has a cute photo of him, too!)
http://theflickcast.com/2010/03/14/james-marsters-joins-hawaii-five-o-pilot/

Mar 18 2010 03:33 am #4Sensei

Poor Nick Brendon; his life has become a mess. (Is that because after his huge success with BtVS, he hasn't been able to find another good acting job?) I hope the tazing and arrest by the police will "shock" him into turning his life around. Here is the short article and a photo showing him looking awful. I wish him all the best.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/17/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-tased-nicholas-brendon-venice-arrested-vandalism/

(Maybe this is just a boring title for this thread, so no one is looking. I had hoped people would share other links because I wanted to read what other people had found. Thanks, nmcil, for adding yours!)

Mar 18 2010 07:34 am #5nmcil

That is so sad about Nicolas Brendon - He has to be hurting and feeling awful about how his career has gone - and who know what is going on in his life - He had that terrible comedy series that came and went so fast - you hardly knew it happened - same with that film he did. At the Paley Center Reunion he seemed kind of lost and having to put himself forward too much. A felony charge that is a serious charge - I just hope that the judge he comes up against and the prosecutor will be lenient and have him go into some kind of program instead of going for a strict prosecution of his case.

So many of the stars from both Buffy and Angel have had such little success in the career life. I always think about Charisma Carpenter, and Emma Caulfield and the stars that played the nerds - they were all so outstanding yet we never see them in anything. Same for the stars from Angel - They have all done at least one of the SciFi films - but they have not be given the chance to many parts. Trying to pursue a professional career in the acting profession is really tough -

I am so glad that Amber Benson took up writing - as much as I love seeing James Marsters, at the same time I always feel sad that he has had such a difficult time being offered good roles or a leading role in another series - He is such a good actor.

Can someone give us information on Alexis Denisof - I'm not sure, but I think I read on line somewhere that he is ill or had been ill.

I wish the best of everything for all these people - they all gave me such a gift with their work on Buffy and Angel.

Nicholas Brendon's real life problems certainly puts into perspective all the discussions about the comic book season -

Mar 18 2010 09:55 am #6CM

Guest

Considering that it's TMZ, take the details they say with a huge grain of salt. They're a *tabloid*.

Nick's recent work:

Sweet Lorraine (2010) (post-production)
The Portal (2010) .... Paul
A Golden Christmas (2009) (TV) .... Michael
"Criminal Minds" .... Kevin Lynch (8 episodes, 2007-2009)
    - The Slave of Duty (2009) TV episode .... Kevin Lynch
    - 100 (2009) TV episode .... Kevin Lynch
    - Roadkill (2009) TV episode .... Kevin Lynch
    - Cold Comfort (2009) TV episode .... Kevin Lynch
    - Masterpiece (2008) TV episode .... Kevin Lynch
      (3 more)
My Neighbor's Secret (2009) (TV) .... Brent
"Without a Trace" .... Edger (1 episode, 2009)
... aka W.A.T (USA: short title)
- Undertow (2009) TV episode .... Edger

Charisma:

The Expendables (2010) (post-production) .... Lacy
Psychosis (2009) (completed) .... Susan
House of Bones (2010) (TV) .... Heather
"Legend of the Seeker" .... Triana (1 episode, 2009)
- Marked (2009) TV episode .... Triana
"Greek" .... Tegan Walker (3 episodes, 2007-2009)
    - See You Next Time, Sisters! (2009) TV episode .... Tegan Walker
    - Brothers & Sisters (2008) TV episode .... Tegan Walker
    - Black & White and Read All Over (2007) TV episode .... Tegan Walker
"CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" .... Mink (1 episode, 2009)
... aka CSI: Las Vegas (South Africa: English title: informal alternative title) (USA: syndication title)
... aka C.S.I. (USA: short title)
... aka CSI: Weekends (USA: promotional title)
... aka Les experts (Canada: French title)
- The Descent of Man (2009) TV episode .... Mink

Emma:

Confined (2010) (post-production) .... Victoria Peyton
Removal (2010) (completed) .... Jennifer
... aka Shadow Play (USA: working title) (USA: alternative title)
"Gigantic" (3 episodes, 2010)
    - Pilot: Part 1 (2010) TV episode
    - Black and White and Red All Over (2010) TV episode
    - Pilot: Part 2 (2010) TV episode
TiMER (2009) .... Oona
Why Am I Doing This? (2009) .... Amber
"Private Practice" .... Leanne (1 episode, 2009)
- Wait and See (2009) TV episode .... Leanne

Mar 18 2010 09:57 am #7CM

Guest

Alexis is fine. Just saw a pic of him and Aly walking their daughter in her stroller. (She turns 1 this month.) He was in season 2 of "Dollhouse".

Back during "Angel", he had a bout of temporary palsy in his face. That's the only publicized illness he's had.

Mar 18 2010 06:44 pm #8nmcil

thanks for the info on what these actors have been doing - I guess part of my problem is that I never watch any of the programs listed - and don't check my Whedon Info newsletter like I used to - I really do try watching some of the SyFy films, but outside of High Plains Invaders have yet to make it beyond a few minutes -

Mar 19 2010 09:05 am #9rising star

Guest

There's a Whedonverse Actors thread here: http://risingstarforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general
We try to keep up-to-date with all the known names.

Mar 19 2010 01:21 pm #10sosa lola

I don't watch Criminal Minds, but I do try to check the episodes that has NB in them.

Other than the list CM put, NB had been in a lot of plays. Recently, he'd done a couple of plays, and did a meet and greet with the fans:

http://www.facebook.com/nicholasbrendon

It actually came as a shock to me that he was arrested for losing it while drunk, a few days ago, I thought he was doing really well, what with my flist in LJ posting their photos with him. Guess he's having family/personal problems, but I doubt they had something to do with his career.

Mar 19 2010 08:18 pm #11nmcil

Thanks all for the NB updates - I am very happy to see that he has been doing a lot more work than I was aware of - The link for risingstar should help me keep up.

Anyone have information on the distribution of Anthony Stewart Head's "Repo, the opera" - and the new release of Repo Man. I purchased the Repo Opera but the film was never shown in my city -

Mar 19 2010 08:21 pm #12nmcil

Mar 19 2010 09:25 pm #13nmcil

Here is a really wonderful Total Spike Fan moment from one of the stars of CAPRICA - her portion starts approximately 5 mimutes into the interviews, she plays Lacy. First part is with Star Gate Universe stars - but you can simply fast forward if you are not interested in Star Gate Universe. James Marsters, hopefully will be on again tonight. Be nice if you drop by the DKSC and just say Thanks to jamie - this site just keeps on doing a lot of good work for Spike, the Buffyverse and James Marsters.

http://dontkillspike.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=4376&page=10#24296

http://twitter.com/scifitalk/statuses/10672839664

Saw the midseason finale of #Caprica last night at @paleycenter New York...Wow...#JamesMarsters is riveting as Barnabus. Turns up a notch.

Mar 27 2010 09:58 pm #14nmcil

SPECIAL TREAT FOR WRITERS

April 1 Celebration

U.S. Poet Laureate Kay Ryan will anchor a one-hour videoconference from the Library of Congress on April 1 to highlight Community College Poetry Day across the country.

This videoconference and the day-long campus poetry festivities are part of Ms. Ryan’s “Poetry for the Mind’s Joy” project, sponsored by the Library in collaboration with the Community College Humanities Association (CCHA) . Individual campuses are planning poetry readings, discussions, slams, and other activities.

In the one-hour videoconference, the Laureate will interact with selected community college students revealing tips about writing poetry and aspects of her own writing process. It will be held from 1-2 pm EDT time on Thursday, April 1. The videoconference also will be streamed simultaneously and can be viewed on the Poetry for the Mind’s Joy [www.loc.gov/poetry/mindsjoy] page.

Video Conference
April 1, 2010 at 1:00pm EDT

Instructions for accessing the live stream will be available here on April 1 at approximately 12:45 pm eastern time. Community college students and others are invited to watch to learn how the Laureate develops a poem.

For more information, please click here.

Mar 27 2010 10:40 pm #15Sensei

The poetry videoconference leads me to a very off-topic thought--has anyone in fanfic ever written good serious Spuffy poetry? I don't mean the little drabbles of purposefully done poor poetry that a writer might have William do; I refer to efforts to make quality poetry about the evolution of their relationship, emotions, thoughts, or even a fanfic story written in poetic form.

Mar 28 2010 03:33 am #16slaymesoftly

Moderator

I've seen some on LJ. One was done in haiku - I forget whether it was serious or humorous now. Perhaps both. Couldn't begin to tell you or where to find them, though.

I am not a minion of Evil...
I am upper management.

Mar 28 2010 04:18 am #17coalitiongirl

I know that

mere_ubu writes fun "Spaikus".

Oh, and there was also "Lunch Money," here, which is Spike and Dawn and Spuffy.

Mar 28 2010 04:19 pm #18slaymesoftly

Moderator

I know that mere_ubu writes fun "Spaikus". Gah! Of course it was! I should have remembered that.

I am not a minion of Evil...
I am upper management.

Mar 28 2010 07:03 pm #19Anca

Guest

What about My Life Closed Twice - by Anaross. I know she used a lot of poetry in that story, I'm totally unfamiliar to English/American poetry, but maybe she also had original poems in there.

Mar 28 2010 09:44 pm #20slaymesoftly

Moderator

Oh, excellent suggestion! (And a truly wonderful story). The poems aren't about the Spike/Buffy relationship necessarily (although, I think one of them is), but the story is full of them and you learn more about poetry than you probably ever knew. I believe many of them were original, as she had them being written by characters in the story.

I am not a minion of Evil...
I am upper management.

Mar 29 2010 07:59 pm #21Sensei

Thanks! I'll follow up on your suggestions.
In the meantime, back on topic, did you know James will be in the remade Hawaii 5-0 pilot?
http://theflickcast.com/2010/03/14/james-marsters-joins-hawaii-five-o-pilot/

Mar 29 2010 10:23 pm #22slaymesoftly

Moderator

Yep. Was hoping he was going to get a steady job, but it looks like he's the villain - again. On the plus side, he was awesome in Caprica last week, so evil may be his thing. :)

I am not a minion of Evil...
I am upper management.

Mar 31 2010 07:24 pm #23nmcil

Ditto on the Caprica -

PLEASE all the James Marsters fans, help support his career and this wonderful series and the SyFy channel that is trying so hard to bring genre programing to television. The viewer numbers are abysmal for Caprica - please watch online at the SyFy website and consider buying the JM episodes on itumes - I will probably buy the series in addition to the 2 JM episodes. For those of you who have Comcast On Demand, I think that Caprica is part of their offered programs.

Apr 01 2010 01:56 am #24nmcil

Here is a fun article on Villains which I took of the Whedon Info site

Wolfram & Hart : Example of Bad Villain(s)

jeudi 4 mars 2010, par

A Villain Who Can’t Kill The Hero Is The Worst Kind Of Asshat

Villains : They’re crazed, they’re flamboyant, and they’re the smoggy, sparking engine that keeps many a story chugging along. Except that a villain who can’t kill the hero for some contrived reason is worse than having your hero fight global illiteracy.

Welcome back to Monday Hate, an irregular feature in which we hate things because it’s Monday.

Seriously, we love villains, except when they’re weak and watered down. An underwhelming villlain is like incidental music with too much pizzicato violin plonking. An underwhelming villain makes your hero, and all the other characters, look proportionately less awesome as well. And there’s nothing more unimpressive than a villain who’s got a mental block against disposing of his or her nemesis.

So here are some of the most absurd rationalizations that villains use, instead of just getting on with it and being freaking villainous :

"It’s too easy."

This is the most common weak-villain rationalization. As if killing is only worthwhile if it’s a challenge, or as if murder is a form of self-improvement. You know, you can always kill the hero and then go and seek further challenges : Work out at the gym. Read the complete Tolstoy. Learn a foreign language. Etc. I’m not even including the common trope where the villain puts the hero into a silly death trap instead of simply shooting him/her, or pauses to gloat about his/her scheme instead of getting it over with — even leaving those things aside, there are plenty of villains who have the heroes at their mercy, but then walk away because... well, having is not so pleasant a thing as wanting. Or something. The Other Murdock Papers (which supplied the image above) has an amazing collection of this cliche in action, throughout Daredevil comics.)

"The hero has an important part to play."

The first two seasons of Angel, the Buffy spin-off starring David Boreanaz, were like watching treacle slowly drip down a wall. And the major reason for that was because the main villains, the evil law firm Wolfram & Hart, had decided they couldn’t actually kill Angel because he was important in the Apocalypse. Or they had a spicy peanut noodle recipe that required Angel’s own brand of cilantro. Or something. The point is, they spent dozens of episodes screwing with Angel, but they couldn’t just stake the smug bastard. It was a glorious relief when the Beast and Jasmine replaced W&H as the show’s main baddies, and even though we finally got some amazing payoff on the way-too-long-simmering Wolfram storylines in the show’s final season, that doesn’t make the first two seasons any less turgid.

"I enjoy our little games."

Then there’s the villain who treats the life-or-death battles with the hero as a kind of chess game, and really it’s all just a lark. At which point, my interest in the story immediately goes downhill. If the villain’s not taking it all seriously, why should I ? This is related to the "villain needs the hero, or life won’t be meaningful any longer" problem, which is also totally bogus and way too metafictional. The idea that the villain has no meaning without the hero is only true if the villain thinks of him/herself as a character in a story, honestly.

"It’s against the rules."

Okay, so this isn’t an example of "villain can’t kill hero," since they’re both villains. But do a google search for the phrase "why can’t Ben kill Widmore ?" And you’ll see a lot of confused people on the internet. Why can’t Ben kill Widmore anyway ? He’s in the guy’s bedroom with a gun. Let’s hope this is on the giant list of things that Lost plans to explain before it wraps up.

"Join me."

Otherwise known as the Darth Vader clause — the villain doesn’t want to kill the hero. Instead, there’s a whole Jehovah’s Witness recruiting thing. Actually, it makes sense in the case of Vader and Luke — this is probably the one instance in which the "join me" thing does work, since Luke would be a valuable asset to the Empire and a possible Vader replacement. Force-sensitives are a precious recourse and all that. But that’s really the exception — 99 percent of the time, when the villain tries to recruit the hero, it’s completely weak. The villain’s recruiting pitch is usually pathetic, and the hero’s pretense at going along with it is so transparent, you wonder which one of them is the bigger idiot.

"We can’t kill him until we find out what he knows."

Okay, seriously. Goldfinger contains the greatest scene in movie history, followed by the weakest. Goldfinger has James Bond exactly where he wants him, with a laser slicing remorselessly across the table towards Bond’s splayed legs. You get the immortal exchange : "Do you expect me to talk ?" To which I shouldn’t have to tell you Goldfinger’s response. And then Bond babbles something about how he knows all about Operation Grand Slam, which he read on a Denny’s menu or something, and Goldfinger abruptly decides he really doesn’t expect him to die after all. He has to keep Bond alive, until he finds out how much he knows. Guess what, Auric ? If Bond is dead, it doesn’t matter how much he knows. A crotch-laser doubles as a knowledge extinguisher.

"I can’t kill you until you’re a broken shell of your former self, begging for death."

Obviously, many megavillains are deeply disturbed individuals who tortured small animals when they were younger. But still, this compulsion to toy with their prey ? Gets a bit old. Here’s the most ridiculously insane passage from Dennis O’Neil’s largely ridiculous novelization of Batman : Knightfall, which I’ve already quoted from before :

The time had come to decide what to do with his enemy. Kill him ? A death, painful but swift ? No. That would destroy this Batman, but with little satisfaction... To conquer the enemy — that was admirable. But to break him, to watch him writhe helplessly, to hear him plead for mercy — that was magnificent. A man who could do that would have cause to fear nothing.

"I will keep you in a cellar," Bane said aloud. "Once a week, I will have them drag you across the floor by one foot —"

Bane could see it. Batman, pale, blinded by light, smeared with filth, dressed in tatters, so thin his ribs almost burst from his skin, his arms and legs flopping, drool leaking down his chin. "Give him a cockroach to eat," Bane says. "Give him a live mouse. Then put fire to his feet. I want to hear him scream."

The brief vision had the power of a prophecy.

It’s hard to argue with prose like that. But still. What the hell, villains ? You know what’s more impressive than a broken hero, begging for death and stuff ? A dead hero, possibly with his/her head on a stick or something. (Of course, as with the "Join me" thing, there is one great exception here — Khan in Wrath Of Khan. If you’ve got Ricardo Montalban delivering an incredible speech, and he’s refusing to walk into one of Kirk’s traps, then you get a free pass.)

Really, the main reason for a villain’s inability to kill a hero is the same as the reason heroes can’t kill villains — if either side had any real resolve, there’d be a lot less room for the villains to come back again and again, in serialized narratives. If your villains really are determined to wipe out their opposition, then they either have to keep failing, again and again, or they have to succeed — which is probably inimical to the "ongoing saga" thing. So it’s a choice between "incompetent villains" and "villains with a weird mental block." Is it too much to ask for a third option : Villains who are competent and ruthless ?

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Apr 03 2010 08:41 pm #25nmcil

Here is a good link for James Marsters bio and career info - plus you can see all the SFX Interview and Q&A sessions together - I had not had a chance to watched all before - really enjoyed them.

http://www.ask.com/movies/people/James-Marsters/298971

Apr 03 2010 08:43 pm #26nmcil

macha from Tea at the Ford has some serious poetry - actually, I think many of the writers have done original poetry from the Buffyverse -

Apr 08 2010 12:45 am #27coalitiongirl

An update on the Nicholas Brendon situation HERE. Looks like he might even be facing a two-year prison sentence for what happened. :(

Apr 09 2010 07:38 am #28Sensei

Geez, two years possibly for one drunken mistake? Overboard much?! You can bet the charges wouldn't be so big if he were the son of a senator or other big politician. They would have just gotten community service or sent to rehab. Poor Nick; he made a really, really BAD choice but time in prison isn't going to solve his problems. Keep me posted if you hear what the outcome is.

Apr 09 2010 07:46 am #29Sensei

On the other hand, I could see the fashion police sending him to prison for two years for wearing that outfit. Did you look at the photo of his shirt and the jacket he is wearing with it? He must have been drunk for sure when he put that on!!!

Apr 09 2010 11:21 am #30nmcil

This is really bad news - I hope that he is able to survive all this - not an excuse for being drunk in public and having a confrontation with the police. I just hope that the judge takes into consideration that he was drunk and not in control. this is a bad situation anyway that you look at it.

I am so glad that I got control of my drinking at an early age - one of the reasons that I so dislike the argument about Spike and love being a selfish motivator. The reason that I stop drinking was entirely based on love - love for my husband and for my family. It is completely narrowed minded to insist that actions motivated by the desire to obtain are basically a selfish expression of that love desire.

Apr 09 2010 05:20 pm #31Tanit

Isn't this just announcing the formal charges that have been filed, and what the maximum sentence would be, IF he is convicted of all four misdemeanors? There's nothing that says he will serve two years in jail, just that he might. I'll be stunned if he ends up in jail for that long. Honestly, I'd be surprised if this even goes to trial. Now that formal charges have been filed, I expect a plea agreement that will result in some probation, contingent upon his admission into and completion of a rehab program. Probably some community service as well. Seems pretty standard fare for Hollywood brushes with the law, at least the first few, and I don't think he's had legal troubles before, has he? I'm sure he'll avoid being a jailbird. :) (All my lawyerin' I learned from tv and Fark, and reading far too many celebrity blogs. lol Please correct me if I'm misreading this sitch!)

I'm sympathetic to a point, because NB clearly has a disease and he needs treatment for it, and a lot of support. And I'm totally behind him getting the help he needs! However, I really rather hope the judge (if it gets that far) does NOT take into account NB being "drunk and not in control." Being drunk isn't a mitigating circumstance, it's what got him in this situation in the first place. He made a choice (one I'm sure he struggled to not make every day), and sadly, now he has to live with the consequences.

Sensei -- you're right. That is a horrible, terrible outfit. The shirt! The ... shirt! Really I'm just stuck on the shirt. It's bad on its own, but paired with a striped suit jacket? Oh no. No. And the collar, omg! lol

Apr 10 2010 05:49 am #32nmcil

You are right - this is just the first steps in the process, I also don't expect that he would do any jail time - not that I am in anyway condoning what he did, but he clearly is in need of a lot of help, not any jail time. Drunk people are totally out of control after a certain level, but getting into a struggle with the police is never a godd thing.

Apr 10 2010 06:01 pm #33sosa lola

I'm so glad I don't drink. :)

Jail? That's weird, because I just read somewhere that he's filming a new episode of Criminal Mind.

Apr 11 2010 07:54 am #34nmcil

Glad to here - never been involved with court case but I suspect that the process will take a while -

Apr 13 2010 11:39 pm #35Sensei

Spikealicious sent this link to me. If you close your eyes and just listen to this youtube guy sing Rest in Peace, you might actually think it is James singing the song. Good job!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By0aXuJldpI

Apr 18 2010 06:22 am #36Sensei

Here is the link to an audio interview that James did in Australia. It's about 9 minutes long.
http://blogs.abc.net.au/queensland/2010/04/james-marsters-.html?site=brisbane&program=612_drive

James said a lot of new things, but there was one I am especially sorry the interviewer just brushed off. She asked him if there was a moment in Buffy when he realized he was no longer an unknown actor, and James replies yes and he didn't like it, but instead of letting him explain why, she goes on to another subject. I'd really like to hear him explain that more. Have any of you ever heard him go into the subject more? (I assume he refers to not liking giving up the ability to go out in public and just do normal things without being accosted by fans or the press, but I don't know for sure...)

Apr 18 2010 06:46 am #37nmcil

Herald Sun Australian Convention article - james marsters - looks like JM and I are both NEWS JUNKIES - I love the Maddow Newscast - and watch 4 hours of MSNBC everyday

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/buffy-the-vampire-slayers-james-marsters-guests-at-supernova-pop-culture-expo/story-e6frf96f-1225853984591

Apr 18 2010 07:00 am #38nmcil

Thanks Ever for posting the audio interview link - Loved it - James has balls to go up against Peter Hall -

Apr 30 2010 06:50 am #39nmcil

Here is a Great Spike Fan Goody - "Greatest Flashbacks" at SFX Spike and "Fool For Love" was the second place - Great Image of Spike

http://www.sfx.co.uk/2010/04/26/the-greatest-flashbacks/15/

May 09 2010 09:25 pm #40nmcil

Very interesting article and vid from the NYT regarding research into Infants intrinsic human choice -

http://video.nytimes.com/video/2010/05/04/magazine/1247467772000/can-babies-tell-right-from-wrong.html

May 12 2010 10:06 pm #41coalitiongirl

New article on Nick Brendon's situation: HERE

May 13 2010 06:26 pm #42nmcil

Want some great Buffyverse & Season 8 fun - think you will link this and check out some of the other neat creations at Snarkathon: http://community.livejournal.com/comicsnarkathon/

Great Fiddley Bits Theater Collection - Comic Issue 35 http://sockmonkeyhere.livejournal.com/48062.html

I think this one is even better - http://sockmonkeyhere.livejournal.com/47388.html

May 18 2010 09:34 pm #43nmcil

Good scans of the SFX "Greatest Screen Vampire" article - the entire article is here - don't forget to click on image to see the large original - Thank Sueworld for her efforts.

http://www.buffyforums.net/forums/showthread.php?p=379961#post379961

transcribed interview

http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AYYvN29aievLZGZ2dHhmYzlfMGhtc3F2amQ0&hl=en

May 22 2010 12:38 am #44coalitiongirl

Here's some happy news! James Marsters is engaged!

Details HERE.

May 22 2010 12:58 am #45Ami

Aww that's nice...I hope it works out for him. :)

May 22 2010 01:16 am #46CM

Guest

Yeah, they've dated since 2004. Guess his lady will be becoming a California girl. :)

May 22 2010 06:14 am #47nmcil

Boy - talk about Real Life reflecting some of the theme of the Buffyverse -

I wish them well and hope that they will find great love and joy together - I expect that there will be a some conflicted fans - And I wonder how much, if at all, it will effect his following at his Live Performances etc.

May 22 2010 08:59 pm #48Sensei

And in case your hearts are in denail (how could he ever choose anyone else over me?!!!!) here are a couple more links announcing the engagement:
official site http://www.jamesmarsterslive.com/

People magazine online http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20387444,00.html

US magazine online http://www.usmagazine.com/healthylifestyle/news/former-buffy-star-james-marsters-is-engaged-2010215

I wish the couple great happiness. I think it is great that he gave her time to grow up a bit so they are more evenly matched now and should have more in common for a strong, long-lasting relationship. And as my friend Spikealicous pointed out to me regarding James being "taken" : at least we'll always have Spike!

May 23 2010 04:27 pm #49nmcil

"And as my friend Spikealicous pointed out to me regarding James being "taken" : at least we'll always have Spike!"

Our JM love is really SPIKE LOVE so does not much matter to me - some pretty nasty comments coming out about the big age difference - not so much about now, but with how very young she was when they first met. Can't say that I was not disappointed to hear that he became involved with such a young woman when he first met her - but we don't really know their history and the nature of their relationship at that time. I'm going with "she was very intelligent and very together and mature" - I wish them all the best and that everything works out for them and that their life together is filled with love and a beautiful friendship.

I think it would be great for James Marsters to have another child and I think that he is genuinely a very nice person and takes his life as a father and family man very seriously.

May 23 2010 05:08 pm #50coalitiongirl

I think that the fact that they've ben seeing each other for this long really does say something about their relationship- this isn't some out-of-the-blue lust/fame thing, it's been building for years.

Though I can't say that my nearly-24 heart isn't still whining that it could have been me... :P

May 23 2010 11:09 pm #51slaymesoftly

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He was so full of himself and his newly discovered "love" (been with the girl for six years and he's just now realizing he loves her?) when we saw him in February, that I suspected this would be coming. The age thing is a bit squicky, but he's not doing anything different than what most other men that age would do if they could. If you're famous (even minorly famous) or powerful, there are going to be younger women available to you who might not be quite so available if you were Joe in Accounting. Most men are happy to go for the younger women as long as they aren't gum-popping teenagers. I'd say, in his line of work, it was inevitable. And, as someone else pointed out, he does seem to value family and being a father, so I'd be surprised if he didn't have another child fairly soon.

And since I'm old enough to be his mother - I have successfully smothered any delusions I may have been harboring that I might get lucky at some event. LOL It will be interesting to see if/how if affects his fans, though...

I am not a minion of Evil...
I am upper management.

May 24 2010 01:24 am #52CM

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Yeah, almost 6 years now, and long distance. Being on the other side of the world from your SO is not easy for nearly anyone, so for them to get to this point really says there was genuine effort there. James is technically 47, but aside from fatherly obligations, he doesn't act like most men in their 40s, who frankly tend to act "old", so that probably helps.

I'd be surprised if he planned another child, actually. He's been looking forward to when his son and niece are adults so he has freedom to take any projects he wants again. Raising a baby again would definitely affect that. Not to say life won't say "baby now", but it would surprise me if he started one deliberately.

just now realizing he loves her - Definitely is a weird statement, but it's probably out of context. I was seeing his quote as realizing he's "in love", which to me seems like a mutual statement.....as in "wow, we're at this amazing place of clicking in love together", which I can see James thinking/saying. Considering he's said he ended up divorced because his ex-wife didn't love him (his words), that contrast to what he might/does have now might have had him going "wow" earlier this year. He told fans at the Valentines private dinner he was thinking about proposing/looking for rings.

May 24 2010 02:11 am #53slaymesoftly

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The context was - Hey, I'm excited today because I woke up a few day ago and realized I was in love!" And he went on from there. Maybe he meant "I'm in a loving relationship" but that's not what he said. Not that I'm offering an accurate quote - I wasn't taking notes - but that's pretty much what he said and how he said it. I'm not surprised that he followed up with information about planning to propose. I'm sure there were lots of questions along those lines at dinner that night. Or was the dinner the night before? Is confuzzled now. Anyway, he was making it pretty clear that things were going past the "my girlfriend" stage. I think she's been living with him for a while, hasn't she?

I am not a minion of Evil...
I am upper management.

May 24 2010 03:01 am #54Spikez_tart

Wait! He said he would wait for me!

If we want her to be exactly she'll never be exactly I know the only really real Buffy is really Buffy and she's gone' who?

May 24 2010 12:55 pm #55sosa lola

Awww! Congratulations, James! Time to settle down and have a family.

May 24 2010 08:53 pm #56nmcil

"And since I'm old enough to be his mother - I have successfully smothered any delusions I may have been harboring that I might get lucky at some event. LOL It will be interesting to see if/how if affects his fans, though.."

His real fans will stay with him and continue to support his career and the fans that were into him for sexy good looks and other reasons will probably drop off -

James Marsters is definitely in the age bracket where your time here on earth starts to really sink in - it's a time in your life that brings on a lot of reflection on how and what would bring a quality of peace and satisfaction in your life. We know from that he does value highly his sense of family and being a father, caring for those that he loves - this should not be a big surprise. And comments from slaymesoftly about older men and fame is a big factor - young women are much more available to men in his professing. JM is handsome, leads an exciting and interesting life, while not super wealthy, he is certainly in very comfortable financial status, he is intelligent and seems to be a very nice and considerate person, what's not to love.

James Marsters, from things that I have read online about his appearances often gives out some peculiar comments - this "woke up...in love" sounds like he was just on "improvise mode" - he would not really want to go into personal details about their relationship and this would be something that could be for public information and simply connecting with his devoted fans. It could be seen as a strange comment in the context of "only now realizing you are truly in love" and particularly since she was so young when he first met her. I just hope that he is not making a big mistake, same for her. If she does not find that she will truly be happy sharing her life with him, it will be much easier for her to change their relationship than it will for him.

Life and the Buffyverse fandom is simply changing - personally, I like that James Marsters is more removed now and that I am more focused with the real reason that I love James Marsters, his great gift to the Buffyverse - Spike.

On the age thing - I have to admit that his being in a relationship with such a very young woman, the 17 or 18 year phase, it does bother me. The same as the Buffy-Angel relationship bother me. Of course, the real life experience for these two people is nothing like the Buffy-Angel relationship - but it does bother me. Now, not so much because there is a big difference between 17-18 and 24 and if Patricia had been 24 when they first met no one would find any problems with this relationship.

May 24 2010 09:34 pm #57Tammy

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The fact that she's 24 now is all that matters to me, I don't much care how they started out, and we don't really know all of the details. I'm not one to judge, I look at my brother's relationship, he's 25 involved with a 48-year-old, and they're really good together. He was 18 or 19 when they first hooked up, I can't really remember. I can get some people being bothered by that, but it's his life, and really not our place to say what's right and what isn't. If he's happy, that should be all that matters.

"His real fans will stay with him and continue to support his career and the fans that were into him for sexy good looks and other reasons will probably drop off."

Sadly, that's probably true, and shows that they really weren't fans to begin with. I'm a fan of his acting and nothing more, so I'll still be following his career. I don't really care what he does in his personal life.

May 27 2010 03:50 am #58Joyce

Well, I'm definitely a fan of James's work especially his voice. I wish them much happiness. Like someone else said, he did wait until she was past the wishy washy early 20s before proposing so I think that bodes well. And the age thing doesn't bother me either since that's so typical of show business.

Slaymesoftly, I thought I was the oldest one on this board and I'm not old enough to be James's mom unless I were a teen mom.

May 27 2010 01:22 pm #59slaymesoftly

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Well, I'd have had to be a bit more precocious than I was, but, yeah. When James was trying to figure out what his thumb was for and why the world was suddenly so bright and loud, I was off for my freshman year of college. So, physically old enough, if not mature enough for something like that. :)

I am not a minion of Evil...
I am upper management.

May 27 2010 10:26 pm #60Sensei

If anyone learns of an article with more info on the engagement, post it here, please. I'm not very good at finding such things on my own and rely on you all for my news.
That said, as I was searching to see if James has said anymore I came across these interesting tidbits:
On the cover of ET magazine coming out May 28 is Buffy as one of the 100 greatest characters of the past 20 yrs.

Here is a listing of 20 unexpected deaths of TV characters. Buffy and Angel have more listed than any other show--which makes me realize that Joss sure yanked us around a lot! (No, not Spike's death. I guess they thought we should have seen that one coming.)
http://www.mania.com/20-wtf-tv-character-deaths_article_122805.html

Because of the Lost finale, EW did a list of the 20 best finales of all time. Buffy was #9--although the Bangel commenters on it didn't seem to like that Spike was described as redeemed and Angel merely "a fond memory".!
http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20387623_12,00.html

May 27 2010 10:53 pm #61nmcil

Thanks for the EW.com link Sensei - I went a put my two cents in - I am comment 49. Hope some of the rest of the Spuffy and Buffyverse fans will add some coments as well.

http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20387623_12,00.html

here are my comments, just had to add something, I know acting juvenile, but with some of the Bangel comments I just had to add something. LOL, now I can't find my comment with their listing process.

Would like to remind all the fans, this was a finale for the entire series - that should be your focus. This article is about the 20 Best Finales of a television series.

It is the opinion of the staff that this is their choices, I am sure other people and critics would have a different arrangement, perhaps some different choices, but probably many of the same.

I would just like to say "Thank You" for the article, I enjoyed reading it very much and seeing all the great images -

I am personally a huge Buffy and Joss Whedon fan - and I loved the entire series - I think it was one of the most important television shows and a "transition show" - after the Buffyverse many things changed with our television viewing. I thank all the creative staff and actors for that.

I LOVED every single episode of the series, and I loved the finale - I LOVED James Marsters and Sarah Michelle Gellar both and thought they were wonderful

May 28 2010 01:11 am #62Sensei

That was a great comment, nmcil. You sounded thoughtful and intelligent--a good way to show some on the other "side" to be more mature about their stance and allow everyone to have differing opinions. I am sure the EW staff appreciated your thank you note.

May 28 2010 12:07 pm #63CM

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Sensei, there hasn't been anything about the engagement besides the official announcement. If James talks about it at all, it'll probably be at the upcoming conventions. The Phoenix con is this weekend, so there might be something in fan reports.

May 28 2010 06:14 pm #64nmcil

If anyone comes across something new from the Phoenix Con - hope they will post it here for us.

May 29 2010 12:38 am #65CM

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Rosie Tweet: #JamesMarsters new kitten name is ‘Pandora’ named by Britney & he is calling her ‘Pan’ 32 minutes ago via web
Rosie Tweet: #JamesMarsters said the new album is on hold at the moment but he is writing new songs for it. about 1 hour ago via web
Rosie Tweet: Rosie asked #JamesMarsters if he was giving up on Acting & Music (because of dumb rumors) answer was NO! about 1 hour ago via web
Rosie Tweet: #JamesMarsters has a new Kitten!!! about 1 hour ago via web
Rosie Tweet: Rosie congrats #JamesMarsters on his recent engagement & gave him her hand made card, James showed her his ring. about 1 hour ago via web

HellZiggy W00t! Just totally geeked out NASA & space travel with James Marsters!

audiedoggie just saw @wilw, @feliciaday, John Schneider, James Marsters and Lou Ferrigno! I'm SOOO geeked out!!

Gutenmorg3n So, yeah... James Marsters...definitely still very very good looking.

jill_thrasher Just walked by James Marsters, even hotter with gray hair

PamelaCayne And James Marsters is so. Freaking. Nice!!! #phxcc

raynaforbes James Marsters is the sweetest guy ever!! He was so gracious.

SarahELaw I just met Johnathon Kent! Geek out. Oh and I saw James Marsters!!!!

SCJacka We just met James Marsters. He touched my hand. He's super nice, he touched my hand, he's now wearing a ghostbusters pin :)

JennChildres @phoenixcomicon: Do you think it would be too presumptuous to ask James Marsters for his autograph wearing a wedding veil? :)

Rosie Tweet: Confirmation, yes #JamesMarsters has an engagement ring too. His is plain silver band worn on his left hand 3rd finger.

Rosie Tweet: Patricia is with #JamesMarsters in Phoenix. She has shown Rosie her ring & it is very pretty.

singsinthecar Talked to James Marsters. He thought my @wilw dice shirt was cool! He said he wasn't staring at my breasts then gave me a science lesson. :)

ChrisZCorbin @Bserendipity is a pussy. She just ran away from James Marsters and John Schneider.

dwneylonsr James Marsters #phxcomicon http://tweetphoto.com/24408697

scottandrew I am told by my driver that James Marsters sat in my seat yesterday.

May 29 2010 03:47 am #66nmcil

This messaging is fun - Thanks for the updates on all the fun you are having -

May 29 2010 05:10 am #67CM

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Oh, I'm not there! Those are all Twitter posts.

dede919 Hee hee we're at the Phoenix comicon. I just saw Wil Wheaton, Levar Burton and James Marsters. I am such a nerd!

anniebuentello James Marsters @ phxcc http://twitpic.com/1rxtbg

GeorgeR1980 Hey members stop by and get your drink on inside the Hyatt Regency Phoenix! James Marsters band will be on! Yes TV’s Spike! @PhoenixComicon

smallvillebuzz John Schneider & James Marsters To Attend @PhoenixComicon This Weekend http://bit.ly/9WKCAI #Smallville

EBlake1123 Going to see Jonathan Schneider & James Marsters tomorrow at #PhoenixComicCon!

itsOHlivia James Marsters is engaged? Congrats Brainiac!

mandyfish If you look closely this is James Marsters @ #PHXCC - http://moby.to/tl637j

cuecree James Marsters just walked by! EEP!

May 29 2010 07:44 am #68CM

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WriggleRosie from morethanspike.com - "Oh yeah - I've had LOTS of talks with James today - so cool! He is so damn happy and there is lots of time to talk. Got LOADS to report back - had to make so many notes already! Looking lovely in grey t shirt with buttons and grey waistcoat (vest) over.
Just looking soooo good! First couple of pics over on Flickr that I got early on.

And my first 2 photo ops ( the third one has gone missing atm!) are really lovely!"

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrigglerosie/sets/72157624158009870/

I wanna play with that hair. :P

May 30 2010 07:15 am #69CM

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Today's reports are at this link: http://www.morethanspike.com/index.php?topic=5095.0 and the next page. I'll let someone else do the work today. :)

May 30 2010 08:04 am #70coalitiongirl

dailybtvs is having a favorite ships poll, and Buffy/Angel and Buffy/Spike are neck-and-neck... show some Spuffy love here. (LJ users only)

May 30 2010 09:18 pm #71Sensei

VIDEO and AUDIO OF JAMES Q&A SESSION IN PHOENIX Hurray, someone taped James doing his Q&A at the Phoenix con last night. It is in several different parts on youtube each with its own subject area--acting, being on Buffy, etc.. As always he has great answers, a great sense of humor, and a great smile! This will take you straight to the 9 min. segment where he answers questions about acting. From there you can follow it to the other taped segments. (If it doesn't post as an active link, just copy and paste it into the URL address line of your browser.) Enjoy it; it is awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8oPSDvKkrA

May 30 2010 10:40 pm #72CM

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vtwproductions: Podcast of James Marsters' presentation: From Phoenix Comicon 2010 Available HERE Enjoy! 'Wise http://bit.ly/bj1cVK

May 31 2010 10:28 pm #73CM

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Angela's pics from the Q&A:

http://oanimation.jaded-paradise.net/categories.php?cat_id=90

Jun 01 2010 09:25 pm #74nmcil

Here is an excellent analysis and wonderful Illustrated Book regarding the depiction of Buffy in the TV Era and in Comic Book genre - plus Angearia at LJ has a good review of the Illustrated Book -

http://www.watcherjunior.tv/05/flip/schumacher_flip.html

Jun 09 2010 08:39 am #75Sensei

Goodness, the book you mentioned says that SMG weighed only 95 lbs. at the end of her Buffy role (I think it said she weighed 115 at the beginning, but I don't remember exactly). I thought she looked too skinny to be healthy. I guess that is what the pressure of being thin in Hollywood can do to you.

I just saw that they are bringing Torchwood back for another season. Hurray! Has anyone seen any articles that say if James will be reprising his role on the new series?

Jun 09 2010 10:29 am #76nmcil

I'm not surprised that she lost a lot of weight from that schedule she lived with all those years - I think she lost a lot of her weight very early into the series. For her height and profession, the 95lbs is not particularly abnormal - I am very petite as well and when I was still taking class everyday and working out at the gym my weight was maintained at between 92 and 95 for years -

Jun 09 2010 07:03 pm #77TammyDevil666

Yeah, besides that she also has really good metabolism. She's one of those people who can eat whatever they want and never gain weight. I've always hated that about her...lol!

When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.

Jun 11 2010 01:19 pm #78CM

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She's looked a lot better post-baby. The thinnest I ever saw her in a pic was actually somewhere around season 4-ish (could have been between 3 and 4), from her hair, and she was wearing a backless dress at an award show that showed every bone in her torso. A lot of mags ran eating disorder worry stories from that appearance. She looked better again by early season 5.

She seemed to lose weight over the course of every season. My guess is that she didn't make sure to keep up with the calories expended by those 15-hour days. Even if she always ate the same amount year-round, she clearly needed to add more calories during filming to maintain her weight. Can't maintain muscle without protein.

(I say all that as another petite girl, but I ate like a horse as a youngster. I didn't pass 90lbs until I was past 30, and I could hike 18 miles with no problem when I was 18. I've only seen tinier bones than mine in some Asian women around here.)

Oct 02 2010 10:31 am #79Niori

So, here's a link I found that pretty much sums up most of the stuff we bitch about when it comes to whedon. Also, it's funny as hell.

http://www.cracked.com/article/166_5-reasons-it-sucks-being-joss-whedon-fan/

Ps- If it has been shown before, my bad (it's 2:30 in the morning, and I have no desire to look through all the posts).

Cheers

~ Niori ~

Oct 02 2010 04:07 pm #80slaymesoftly

Moderator

Fun link, Niori!

I am not a minion of Evil...
I am upper management.

Oct 03 2010 06:29 am #81nmcil

Thanks for the post Niori - I had not seen this before -

Oct 15 2010 06:09 am #82Sensei

Here is a link to a series of videos taken at the Q&A session in New York last week. As always James amazes me with how kind and friendly he is to his questioners (even if it is a dumb question!). And he is so intelligent; he has really impressive answers; you can tell he thinks about the important things in life a lot. The videos aren't quite as good as actually being there myself, but it's a nice second! Did any of you actually get to attend the event?
Click here: Buffyfest: James Marsters Experience NYCC 2010

Nov 12 2010 07:30 am #83Niori

So, Buffy and Spike made MSN's Tv's most memorable make out sessions. Yay!

http://entertainment.ca.msn.com/tv/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=26309026&page=5

Also, Faith and Buffy made best frenemies.

http://entertainment.ca.msn.com/tv/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=26211853&page=9

~ Niori ~

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