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Broken Things by TalesofSpike
Chapter: Chapter 5
08/19/2006 02:37 pm
Of course Giles would think the worst and Xander too when he finds out. Glad that she's at least giving him the benefit of doubt. Very interested in what he's going to do with his Sire. Excellent chapter, great read.
Oops! I thought I'd reached the last of your reviews before... All those things I said, assume I say them at the end of your last comment for the night.
Giles and Xander... Eeesh! Well at least with Giles I think it does stem from a genuine wish to protect her. Xander I think just doesn't want to see her with anyone other than him.
Shan't give away what happens with Dru. I think it works better if you read it.
Thanks again. I'm glad you're enjoying it so far.
Giles and Xander... Eeesh! Well at least with Giles I think it does stem from a genuine wish to protect her. Xander I think just doesn't want to see her with anyone other than him.
Shan't give away what happens with Dru. I think it works better if you read it.
Thanks again. I'm glad you're enjoying it so far.
07/12/2006 02:49 am
ECCKK!!! convince her spike convince her!!! lol, great update!
Thanks, honey!
Dru has really crappy timing and an awful lot to answer for.
Dru has really crappy timing and an awful lot to answer for.
Robyn
06/30/2006 07:13 am
I love that Buffy realizes that she wants Spike to be telling the truth and that she wants him to have her back. Thanks for the update, I really enjoyed it. :)
Thank you, honey! That really is a huge shift in attitude for Buffy at this point compared with canon and I'm glad that it comes across.
vladt
06/29/2006 02:15 am
very good read, thanks. buffy could have been less dramatic at the end of the chapter. she wants to believe in him, so she attacks. joyce is probably going to be more pissed at the attack, than the favorite mug. thanks again for the fine read.
Thanks, honey!
She does want to believe in him, but if she's wrong, she needs to make sure he isn't a threat.
You're probably right about Joyce, though she wouldn't necessarily intervene.
She does want to believe in him, but if she's wrong, she needs to make sure he isn't a threat.
You're probably right about Joyce, though she wouldn't necessarily intervene.
Bridget
06/28/2006 07:29 pm
Buffy's behavior is so tiring. She never uses her brain. Just when would Spike have had the opportunity to slaughter all those people on the train. Please hurry and fix Buffy's stupidity.
Thanks!
If you refer to the replies I made to earlier comments you'll find that IMO Buffy is far from being stupid, and if you take another look at the chapter you'll find that once she knew when the train arrived, she never suggested that Spike was directly involved. There's nothing to fix.
If you refer to the replies I made to earlier comments you'll find that IMO Buffy is far from being stupid, and if you take another look at the chapter you'll find that once she knew when the train arrived, she never suggested that Spike was directly involved. There's nothing to fix.
Harry 4Eyes
06/28/2006 03:11 pm
Wow for some people 2+2 does equal 5. Let's get this straight, Spike, knew his chip wasn't working. and didn't have to tell Joyce, but not only did he make sure the guy was human and then tell Joyce. He was there with the gang when it happened, So because he has an alibi he's guilty? That makes as much sense as Buffy dating Riley.
You get the feeling both Giles and Buffy are projecting? Giles extracting revenge for what Angelus did and Buffy because Angelus couldn't love and change without the curse?
Well it will be interesting to see how Spike disproves an accusation that has little or no ground, except curtamstantial(sp?). Though I think Buffy needs to convince Spike it was him responsible for the massacre, afterall, Spike usually is the one in the middle of the action not leave it to the minions.
well loving it
Update soon
Harry
You get the feeling both Giles and Buffy are projecting? Giles extracting revenge for what Angelus did and Buffy because Angelus couldn't love and change without the curse?
Well it will be interesting to see how Spike disproves an accusation that has little or no ground, except curtamstantial(sp?). Though I think Buffy needs to convince Spike it was him responsible for the massacre, afterall, Spike usually is the one in the middle of the action not leave it to the minions.
well loving it
Update soon
Harry
Thanks, honey!
Everything you have to say is valid, BUT bear in mind that these are his actions over a period of only days and even if they don't know how, from Buffy and Giles' POV, Spike may be manipulating them as part of a larger scheme. It's days of apparently doing good weighed against years of actively doing bad and making it clear to everyone that as soon as the chip was out he'd gladly kill them all.
Out of My Mind is not so far back in time, and this 'verse is not all that far removed from canon where Spike would very, very shortly be using the girl Dru killed for him as a drinking fountain... Events have changed slightly, but Spike's personality hasn't. Buffy and Giles have very good reason for concern.
The miracles are that Buffy (though she might not be able to allow her doubts to show right this second) is actually keeping an open mind and does actually want to believe Spike, even though the timing of the deaths is pretty damning evidence against him, albeit circumstantial. She wants to be convinced.
This isn't S6, Spike has not proven his loyalty. He hasn't stuck around after Buffy died. He hasn't been tortured by Glory and remained true. Having Buffy and/or Giles believe him without question and without knowing anything about his feelings for Buffy would be completely OOC for this time frame. IMHO :)
Everything you have to say is valid, BUT bear in mind that these are his actions over a period of only days and even if they don't know how, from Buffy and Giles' POV, Spike may be manipulating them as part of a larger scheme. It's days of apparently doing good weighed against years of actively doing bad and making it clear to everyone that as soon as the chip was out he'd gladly kill them all.
Out of My Mind is not so far back in time, and this 'verse is not all that far removed from canon where Spike would very, very shortly be using the girl Dru killed for him as a drinking fountain... Events have changed slightly, but Spike's personality hasn't. Buffy and Giles have very good reason for concern.
The miracles are that Buffy (though she might not be able to allow her doubts to show right this second) is actually keeping an open mind and does actually want to believe Spike, even though the timing of the deaths is pretty damning evidence against him, albeit circumstantial. She wants to be convinced.
This isn't S6, Spike has not proven his loyalty. He hasn't stuck around after Buffy died. He hasn't been tortured by Glory and remained true. Having Buffy and/or Giles believe him without question and without knowing anything about his feelings for Buffy would be completely OOC for this time frame. IMHO :)
Lou
06/28/2006 01:01 pm
Jeez, what's up with these people? Paralysis of the logical thinking process?
Thanks, honey, but I have to disagree.
You mean they're so deluded that they don't realise that this Spike is only a very small step away from the one that drained the girl Dru killed for him in Crush in canon. Events have shifted, but only very slightly and that difference is the fact that Buffy has treated him better this time around.
They have a LOT more reason not to trust him than they do to trust him and, yet, Buffy still wants to do just that...
You mean they're so deluded that they don't realise that this Spike is only a very small step away from the one that drained the girl Dru killed for him in Crush in canon. Events have shifted, but only very slightly and that difference is the fact that Buffy has treated him better this time around.
They have a LOT more reason not to trust him than they do to trust him and, yet, Buffy still wants to do just that...
Dirktavian
06/28/2006 10:45 am
I don't know if I've reviewed this story or not, but it's great! I've been catching up on my reading, and I really like the way you capture the friendship between Spike and Joyce-- how he can let out the inner poet around her. I also like the way you make Spike a Buffy a little more vulnerable and open to one another in Season 5. Great work-- keep it up!
Thank you!
I'm so glad you see things that way. I've tried to make Buffy's change in attitude believable. And Spike & Joyce are always fun to do.
The muse isn't playing at the moment, but when it does I'll get right back to this after I've done another chapter of my other WIP.
I'm so glad you see things that way. I've tried to make Buffy's change in attitude believable. And Spike & Joyce are always fun to do.
The muse isn't playing at the moment, but when it does I'll get right back to this after I've done another chapter of my other WIP.
kim
06/28/2006 09:18 am
Bitch...
Spike made the decision all on his own to tell you that the chip was out, and gave you the decision of what to do with him after that. He willingly put his unlife in your hands, so this plan? So not his doing.
Geeze, do none of these people actually go on logic rather than jumping to conclusions?
Spike made the decision all on his own to tell you that the chip was out, and gave you the decision of what to do with him after that. He willingly put his unlife in your hands, so this plan? So not his doing.
Geeze, do none of these people actually go on logic rather than jumping to conclusions?
Thanks, honey!
Well, actually, he told her if she tried to stake him he'd kick the shit out of her. (You and I may suspect he wasn't being truthful but that's what he told her.)
You have to remember that apart from the incident where he found out the chip wasn't working (and where there has to be the distinct possibility that with time to process that fact, so far as Buffy is concerned, he might have acted differently), his 'good deeds' peak at not licking the survivors of Olaf's rampage. We aren't talking S6 Spike here. This is the same Spike who under very slightly different circumstances drank from the girl that Dru killed for him. Buffy has every right to have doubts.
Well, actually, he told her if she tried to stake him he'd kick the shit out of her. (You and I may suspect he wasn't being truthful but that's what he told her.)
You have to remember that apart from the incident where he found out the chip wasn't working (and where there has to be the distinct possibility that with time to process that fact, so far as Buffy is concerned, he might have acted differently), his 'good deeds' peak at not licking the survivors of Olaf's rampage. We aren't talking S6 Spike here. This is the same Spike who under very slightly different circumstances drank from the girl that Dru killed for him. Buffy has every right to have doubts.
06/28/2006 05:05 am
i love your writing style...this is a great chapter, very well done...i thoroughly enjoyed every word...wish buffy'd give him a real chance though, poor spike :( she'll feel bad once she knows the truth... great job :)
Thanks, honey!
Nice as it might have been for Buffy to believe him straight off, at this particular point in time, I think it would have been OOC for her to give him so much trust on the limited evidence available, especially without understanding his motivation.
As for when she finds out, I'll leave that for next chapter.
Nice as it might have been for Buffy to believe him straight off, at this particular point in time, I think it would have been OOC for her to give him so much trust on the limited evidence available, especially without understanding his motivation.
As for when she finds out, I'll leave that for next chapter.
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