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Are you followeing season eight?

Nov 13 2007 08:26 pm   #1SpikeHot

I have been enjoying the Faith storyline No Future For You a lot, I think it's the best Faith centric episode. The season started okay but but not that gripping, right now I can't stop thinking about what'll happen next. The covers are very nice also. I'm still optimistic Spike will show up in a future issue, hopefully meating Buffy again.

I was reading a season eight Spuffy story yesterday, it was very enjoyable. If you know more of season eight Spuffy, I would like to read them.

Nov 13 2007 09:08 pm   #2Always_jbj

I'm not following the comics. But there is an LJ community HERE that is devoted to Season 8.

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Nov 13 2007 10:03 pm   #3TammyDevil666

I was never interested in the Season 8 comics.  I haven't liked what I've heard of them so far.  Besides, they're not likely to be Spuffy, so I think I'll just stick to fan fiction.

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Nov 13 2007 10:45 pm   #4Nika

I haven't been reading the comics, a little cause I've never really liked comics, and it's just not the same as seeing the characters on tv. The characters don't have the right feel maybe. Or maybe I just like fanfiction better. Maybe if there's a Spuffy interaction in one of them, I'll read that one.

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Nov 13 2007 11:27 pm   #5slaymesoftly

I've just finished the ones I have (smooches Selene) and will be getting the next one soon.  I found the covers quite attractive, but the stories a bit hard to follow.  It's been a long time since I read a comic book, and these seem a bit "busy" to me.  Part of that is my having trouble recognizing the characters, though.  Once the eye gets used to how the main characters are drawn, it gets easier to follow what's going on.  The Faith story seems like it will be an interesting one.

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Nov 13 2007 11:38 pm   #6Unbridled_Brunette

I've never liked graphic novels or comic books anyway, so when I heard about the season eight ones, I wasn't really enthused. I think I might have been curious enough to buy one, though, if I hadn't heard some of the negative feedback about them. Like Tammy, I think I'll just stick to fanfiction. I'm much more fond of words than drawings, anyway. :P

But I'm not dissing comic fans; please don't think that I am. I'm just saying that the artwork tends to distract me from the story. I prefer descriptive words to pictures.

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Nov 14 2007 12:13 am   #7Eowyn315

I'd never read a single comic book before Buffy season 8 came out, but I've been enjoying them so far. They're by no means perfect, but I don't think the characterizations and the plots are any worse than what we saw on the show at times. The one thing I do find lacking is that we skipped a period of time (about a year, I think), and it feels like there's a distinct gap in character development not knowing what happened in between - but I think some of the future issues will delve more into that, and I can be patient.

The only other negative thing that I find is that, compared to an episode, they're so short! I can read one issue in ten minutes, and then it's a whole month or more before the next one arrives. That makes them feel a little unsatisfying to me, but I think that's a result of not being used to the medium.

The cover art is gorgeous... it makes me wish Jo Chen drew the entire comic! Although, having looked at some of the earlier Buffy comics, I think these drawings are definitely an improvement.

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Nov 14 2007 01:46 am   #8Immortal Beloved

I'd never read a single comic book before Buffy season 8 came out, but I've been enjoying them so far. 

Ditto.  I've been enjoying the Faith storyline the most (just got my #8 in the mail today!).  Season 3 is actually one of my favorite seasons despite the obvious lack of Spike, but I think that has a lot to do with Faith.  She can be an interesting character.

The cover art is beautiful.  I actually wound up with one of the alternate covers for one issue, and I ended up ordering a second copy so that I could have the Jo Chen cover.  Sooooo much better.  The likenesses are very realistic, almost like someone took a photo and then colored it in :-)

As for why I decided to read the comics, I'm a canon nazi, and I just couldn't bear the thought of not knowing my canon inside and out :-P

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Nov 14 2007 06:10 am   #9Scarlet Ibis

When I was younger...maybe nine or ten, I became this intense Archie comic fan, and collected quite a bit of them.  Then I moved on to book series and tv.  Reading the Buffy comics is intriguing, and I'm dismayed for I know I'll probably end up collecting quite a number of them (3 bucks an issue is gonna add up--how many does he plan on doing?!), if not all of them.  I think it is because Joss says they're canon (since I could give a piss about the other Buffy comics preceding it), I'll go with it, and add it to my collection of Buffy DVDs (you know what I mean :P ) 

Anyway, yeah, Faith's story arc is the most intriguing so far.  I hope it gets better overall (storywise) before...well, ya know.

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Nov 14 2007 02:13 pm   #10SpikeHot

  

I was thrilled about season eight because I was starting to lose interest in Spuffy simply because I think I've read every possible storyline for them during the show. Now we have new material to work with. I was tremendously delighted to see a Spuffy season eight fanficion and it didn't disappoint, I hope there will be more soon.

 

Faith's storyline made me more optimistic about season eight. I didn't like the first storyline, it was too hard to follow. I have only enjoyed Buffy's dream and that's it. I wish the next issues will be like this one. It felt more like a TV episode than Joss's story.

Mar 25 2010 10:25 pm   #11Claudia n  
I have been following and suffering this season, going now in the twiligt arc, my very spuffy soul was hurt, but now I,m hopefull.
Seing Buffy and Angel toguether is painfull, but i still have a little faith in Buffy, and maybe this is what she needs to se what she had before. I dont remember who wrote this, but i know is from a fanfic ..."afther being loved by Spike is too dificult to acept anything else".....
Mar 26 2010 02:25 am   #12nmcil
I have liked the stories that I am reading with Season Eight - and I think that SpikeHot does bring up a good point about how the Spuffy FF could benefit from the new material that is being presented and once Joss Whedon concludes the comic book season.  One of the reason that I have enjoy time travel and stories that place the characters in different dimensions and historical times is how it expands the strictly TV series perspective.  One very big problem that I have with adapting to the comic book season is the shift to a different time period without having had any connection to the ending from "Chosen"  Plus, the time period makes it difficult to keep track of the story, you have to have all your books organized and read them again and again to cross reference  every issue and it is very easy to miss important visuals that might tie in and foreshadow the arc.    For instance, yesterday I was reading from one of the LJ members that does analysis and summaries and I saw a visual clue, the image that shows at the conclusion "Predators & Prey" - it shows a reference to "Barbarella" in which an Angel and sexual seduction play a large part in the film, plus the remake of the film includes writers that work on the current James Bond films which shows on the image next to Barbarella.  These panels, IMO, are connected to how the characters and the Buffyverse will be going in new directions. 

The ending with the panels also shows Buffy talking to Andrew about his choice of actions and one of the Prime Themes of the season, the choices to do bad acts and evil deeds in the quest and execution of personal agendas and personal "truths" -part of  the closing statement by Buffy is "get used to screwing up for good reasons, its what we do."   Had we been able to see this in the TV format and had the ease of  "replay"  and not have to deal with the long time periods that the comic book format brings, it would be a much better experience for the readers. 
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Mar 26 2010 02:26 am   #13Spikez_tart
I have been following and suffering this season, - Aint it the truth.

I have several of the books that combine the older comics.  A lot of them are really great and have terrific art work, too.  I loved Viva Las Buffy.  As for S8, I'm holding my nose and reading it anyway, partly because I want let the PTB's know that there is still interest and partly because, well, I'm obsessed.  Most of the story sucks.  There are occasional glimmers.  This Angel is Twilight thing really sucks and so does the submarine.

We need more S8 fanfic.  I'm sort of interested in going back and reading S1 and S2 fanfic too.  Everything was fresh and funny then.
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Mar 26 2010 12:59 pm   #14sosa lola
and I think that SpikeHot does bring up a good point about how the Spuffy FF could benefit from the new material that is being presented and once Joss Whedon concludes the comic book season.

I agree. Personally, I'm not an old Spuffy fan, this is probably my fourth or fifth year as a Spuffy fan, so I find some stories still fresh and new. However, as a Spander fan, I'm really old and I guess I've read everything out there. I was happy to see a couple of Spander fics set in S8. New setting and fresh ideas is totally needed to keep fandom interested.

I'm a huge S8 fan, and I haven't really suffered a lot. I enjoy the new situations characters are in now, the new relationships and new love interests, and I'm fond of the new characters like Satsu, Renee and Leah. I wish we can see more of them.

the closing statement by Buffy is "get used to screwing up for good reasons, its what we do."

I love this line. That whole issue with Buffy and Andrew was wonderful, my heart twisted a little for Andrew who's finally seen as part of the Scooby gang. :)


Mar 27 2010 04:27 am   #15nmcil
My speculations are that Andrew or Dawn will play a big part in the ending of the S8 - I have always loved this character, even at his worst nerdy weak evil follower and his transformation and redemption arc - Tom Lenk was perfect with his interpretation.  And strange as it seems, I always have a fondness for the Dawn-Andrew pair - even if it makes not much logical sense, they work together for me - Dawn and Xander also are a pair that felt like a good extension from their series relationship.
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Mar 27 2010 06:01 pm   #16LadyYashka
I'm not following the comics either. It's not that I don't like comics, I'm currently reading the Umbrella Academy and I'm starting in on the Sandman comics too. (Hell, I'm writing my own in April.)  And I admit, I was tempted, but then I heard about some of the story lines and decided not to buy them. It also didn't help that they are hard to find where I live as well.

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Mar 27 2010 10:11 pm   #17nmcil
The Sandman comics are wonderful - I understand the the Umbrella Academy is as well - I love the artwork and the covers -  I actually buy comics just for some of the most outstanding covers that I find especially powerful - The Jo Chen covers are worth the price even if you never read the comics.  If I ever think about reading any other comics, I will only buy the HC editions.  I learned my lesson with all the money that I have spent on the Season Eight and Angelverse comics.  Even if you purchase only 1 issue at $3.99, by the end of this Season Eight 40 issues, readers will have spent between $170-$180 .  I have spent so much money for my Buffy addiction and have had little that really touched my heart - The Chen Covers are my consolation - they are outstanding works of art and great lessons for any artist.
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Mar 28 2010 10:39 am   #18LadyYashka
The cover art for Season Eight is beautiful, but from what I've heard of the story lines, it's not enough for me to spend my money on.

The Umbrella Academy is very good. My neighbor let me borrow her hard cover additions so I could read them. It's all her fault I got into them, but then again, I did get her into the Dresden Files so I guess it evens out. I decided to read the Sandman comics because I already adore Neil Gaiman and his writing. It all makes me wish I could draw pictures that don't look like they were drawn by a hyper three year old.

Tomorrow may be hell, but today was a good writing day, and on the good writing days nothing else matters. — Neil Gaiman
Mar 31 2010 07:05 pm   #19nmcil
I have to have myself a very good laugh from your "exchange of readings" with your neighbor.  My addiction to vampire novels that lead me to the Buffyverse started with one of our live drawing models talking me into reading "Interview With A Vampire"  - several years after it was the huge best seller for Anne Rice.  I totally fell in love with her books and her writing, I still consider her Vampire Chronicles as the best vampire novels I have read - way above all others.  I love them for the same reason that I connected with such intensity to the Buffyverse - all about the characters and emotional and intellectual themes. 

I have just started getting into the Sandman I really liked Coraline, which of his books do you recommend? 
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Apr 01 2010 07:07 am   #20LadyYashka
We have similar taste in books so we've been trading them back and forth. She's also a very talented artist and a writer, and she has goals similar to mine. (She wants to break into the comic book industry, and I want to become a published author.)

My mother was the one who got me to read Interview With A Vampire when I was in high school. I still love Anne Rice's early novels, and I think I'll always be a bit grumpy over the fact her book The Mummy never got its sequel.

I adored Coraline! That book was creepy and so was the movie. I'd also heartily recommend The Graveyard Book, Stardust, and Neverwhere. His books of short stories are wonderful as well. (Fragile Things and M is For Magic.) If you can find his books on audiobook, read by him, I'd get those too. That man has an amazing voice and such a lovely accent. I got Neverwhere on audiobook first and him reading it in parts gave me chills. I'm a bit late in becoming a fan of his, so I'm slowly making my way through his novels. (Next up is Good Omens a book he wrote with Terry Pratchett.)
Tomorrow may be hell, but today was a good writing day, and on the good writing days nothing else matters. — Neil Gaiman
Apr 01 2010 07:37 am   #21nmcil
My husband worked in the film industry many years in special effects and was good friends with one of the effects directors for "Coraline"  and who also worked on "Nightmare Before Christmas"  I'm very proud of my husband, he was awarded an Oscar for achievement in Technical and Scientific category.  He was one of the early developers and pioneers in Special Effects -  

I totally fell in love with Anne Rice - I used to send for autographed copies at the Garden Book - think that was the name of the book store in New Orleans, I just don't remember the name.
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”

Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.