Too Late by BuffyMeetsSpike

09/27/2011 07:58 am
Out of darkness         

You maybe should think about doing a tiny epilogue - maybe have Angel's soul meet the same last final dissolution that Buffy and Spike were in - have TPTB allow his soul into meet a true and final departure.  Right now, with your ending is his soul in hell as Spike's would have been. 

Don't have an answer really, but maybe something that you might want to revisit - or just leave it as is - it's a powerful way to end his story - maybe just before his goes into the state you left him he would get a message from TPTB that he will find his final peace.

Hmm. That is a thought.

I shall have to let it ferment with the other ideas I have in the back of my brain. Something could come out of that.

Thanks!

09/26/2011 10:28 am
Out of darkness         

Outstanding -  You did such a great job with Angel and his final act of sacrifice and redemption.  I just hope that Angel, soul and all went into total nothingness - I would hate him having to spend eternity in hell. 

Thank you for this wonderful story and congratulations - this was a great first effort. 

Thank you, thank you for all the thoughtful reviews. 

I didn't honestly think about what happened to Angel. Hmm...,

08/19/2011 04:41 pm
Out of darkness         
That was ONE HELL OF A STORY!!!!  I can hardly believe this was your first story.  This is amazing and terrifying and powerful.  I'm glad that after being such a pratt, the poof came through with a real sacrifice.  Excellent story.  Painful, touching, real.  Frightening, even.

Only one thing... I'd give anything to read what Dawn wrote in reply!  Then again, I probably would have been annoyed at her...  Sigh.

Thank you for this,

Blue
http://www.tthfanfic.org/authors.php?no=12717&list=profile
I have thought about writing a sequel to this one too, starting from Dawn's reply and going on from there. But the idea is still brewing.

This really was my first foray into fan fiction. I am so glad it worked for you - I had to overcome a lot of my own reluctance to put it out there!

Eyghon
08/11/2011 12:45 am
Out of darkness         

Since the last few stories I read from you were so great, I figured I'd check your profile, and I discovered this little gem of a story that I hadn't read (not fond of the Angelverse). What a treat! absolutely amazing, as always.

Thank you so much!  It was my first fan fiction, so I was really self conscious about putting it out there. Glad you enjoyed.

I'm not that fond of Angel and all that either. So I killed him. :-)

05/16/2011 05:49 pm
Out of darkness         
Beautiful fic!  (Was this REALLY, I mean, REALLY your first fanfic?!)

I love Dawn's reaction...quick, turmoil and then does something else. 
Yes, really, it was my first fanfic. But I literally spent about 3 months writing stories in my head during my commute before I put anything on paper (well, on the computer I mean). I used to write fiction a lot back in high school (about 20-odd years ago) but I had fallen out of the habit. I actually only discovered Buffy for the first time last summer, and it really grabbed my imagination. Very glad you enjoy my stories! I really enjoy the escape of writing them!

03/04/2011 09:14 am
Out of darkness         
Tihs is a really great story all around. Love the imagery and the ending totally too me by surprise. I was expecting Buffy to make her way back and tell everyone what happened, and Dawn would be happy enough to have her back that all was forgiven and they'd live happily ever after,  everything  puppies and rainbows. LOL

Glad you handled it a bit more realistically than that.
Thank you! I think they'll live reasonably happy ever after. But I guess I'll have to write a sequel someday to find out...

SeaPea
03/02/2011 04:11 am
Out of darkness         
I enjoyed that.  Hope you write some more Spuffy soon.
Another work is in progress. Glad you enjoyed!

mazza
03/01/2011 11:16 pm
Out of darkness         

what  a wonderful and exciting read this has been. For a first fic you hit all the right buttons and made it a compulsive read. I read the last chapter with bated breath, such wonderful descriptions of the action in the White Room. I hope you have more fics up your sleeve - thank you for sharing your talent with us.

Thank you so much! Your reviews have been so encouraging.

I am working on another story as we speak, so hopefully I can get that going soon.

03/01/2011 01:32 am
Out of darkness         
Yikess!!  I never expected that ending.  Hard to believe Angelass would sacrifice himself for Spuffy but I'm certainly happy he did.  Dawn is ever the petulant child, I see.

Thank you for sharing your talent with us.
You're welcome!

And I'm sure that if the police were looking for suspects in Angel's murder, they'd probably be knocking on my door. Now if I could just kill Xander believably, my Spuffy dreams would be complete...

Thanks again for sticking with it!

03/03/2011 05:11 pm
Here and Gone         
I don’t deserve you.
 
Sure you do. Remember, you have sins to atone for. I think being bound for all time to a moody Slayer who spent the last couple years kicking your ass is a perfect penance.

Hee! Excellent point! I enjoy the way they are able find comfort in humor, against all odds. It's so them.
One of my favorite aspects of the show - these guys can make a bad pun or a wise crack anywhere, anytime.

Jeleyne
02/28/2011 05:29 am
Here and Gone         
Angel, Wesley, and company REALLY need to get that rescue underway.
The rescue will be underway as soon as this pesky paid employment is over for the day!

mazza
02/27/2011 10:38 pm
Here and Gone         

now will help arrive in time? will Buffy and Spike find another way out? all this and more, I hope will be answered - great work, keep it coming!

So glad you are still reading! All will (hopefully) be revealed soon.

02/27/2011 09:59 pm
Here and Gone         
ACK!!  That sounds bad (although maybe less physically painful).  Ol' Santa, er Satan, just cannot bear to lose.  Where's the  big G and his archangels in this?  More please.
Working! Thanks for staying with me!

09/24/2013 04:34 am
The Devil Gets His Due         
  Yeah, it is kinda my fault, I never read warnings or categories, just summaries.

  Also, hey!  I am actually a male over here, and, well ok it is hard to ask for help.  Gotta be manly after all, but well... I don't think I have an argument here because I'll never be in anything close to this situation, but I'd love to think I'd want help. Lol.  I thought there was gonna be an outlet to my mild indignation here.
Well, again, sorry to traumatize you! But it did all come out well in the end. 

09/17/2013 11:38 pm
The Devil Gets His Due         
  Ok, ummm, I can't follow you past "that part".
  Any kind of sexual violation is my limit.
Skip ahead a few chapters - the end is much better. 

I guess there were warnings...

09/26/2011 09:55 am
The Devil Gets His Due         

Wonderful idea your using Spike to take and protect her soul  -

Thank you! It seemed like the only way to save her. 

05/16/2011 05:37 pm
The Devil Gets His Due         
Powerful and wrenching!
Thanks! Hope you weren't too wrenched.

03/04/2011 08:37 am
The Devil Gets His Due         
That was amazingly gut twisting, and sad. I feel so horrible for poor Buffy. Very, very well done, though.
I do feel bad for Buffy. I have a bad commute, and she suffers. But I can make it up to her later, LOL

02/26/2011 04:08 am
The Devil Gets His Due         
You were correct.  That was pretty icky.  Oh well.  Spike will get her back; I trust him.
Yeah, the commuter rail canceled not one, but 2 trains in a row that day, causing me to be late for class. I had a lot of aggression to work out. Hopefully, Buffy and Spike will forgive me...

09/17/2013 11:36 pm
Plans         
  Lol, I have been unsatisfied with Angel, but the Angels' gang reunion inexplicably made me happy.
Good! Glad to hear it. 

mazza
02/26/2011 12:16 am
Plans         

and the tension keeps on building, great!

09/17/2013 11:31 pm
Death or Glory         
  That was an interesting chapter.  Buffy and Spikes' mental process as they worked through their situation was well done, and the maniacal sort of laughing set a kinda surreal feel for the rest of the chapter.
Thank you! Read on, MacDuff!

05/16/2011 05:29 pm
Death or Glory         
This is True Love helping each other without a beat even after death!
I quote the Princess Bride: Death can't stop true love. It can only delay it a bit. 

02/24/2011 05:04 am
Death or Glory         
OMG!! Spike and Buffy just keep getting better and better. You must have some huge imagination to keep coming up with new tortures.  More please.
The longer I spend waiting for the <explitive deleted> commuter rail to send a <explitive deleted> train on time, the more I need to torture someone. Alas, it is illegal to torture the conductors and engineers, so I take out all my frustrations on Buffy and Spike. :-)

02/24/2011 05:04 am
Death or Glory         
OMG!! Spike and Buffy just keep getting better and better. You must have some huge imagination to keep coming up with new tortures.  More please.

02/24/2011 05:04 am
Death or Glory         
OMG!! Spike and Buffy just keep getting better and better. You must have some huge imagination to keep coming up with new tortures.  More please.

09/17/2013 11:26 pm
Contact         
  The medium thing worked really well as a means of conveying to Angel the worst possible scnario.  This is the point in which he should be looking for outside help.  I don't know, maybe someone or ones who would be just as invested in the situation.
Yeah, but have you ever seen a guy voluntarily ask for help? Sheesh, they're stubborn. 

mazza
02/23/2011 11:14 pm
Contact         

excellent - good writing, love the way you always end on a " i want more now" moment.

Glad you like it! The hard part for me is trying to figure out where to break the story. Happy to know it works for someone!

02/23/2011 05:50 am
Contact         
Oh no.  I am not happy thinking that Angelass may be the one to rescue them.  I think he'll just try to get Buffy out and leave the beautiful Spike there alone.  More please.
Well, I suppose if waltzing out of hell was easy, then everyone would be doing it. But I guess you'll just have to wait and see (insert evil laughter)

Thanks for staying with me!

09/17/2013 11:22 pm
Questions Needing Answers         
  Yeah. Angel.


  I get frustrated with the Angel character, but I really think you are writing him well.  This seems like exactly what Angel would do.
I wanted to smack Angel a lot of the time, but he had some qualities that made him a fascinating character. 

03/03/2011 02:54 am
Questions Needing Answers         
Another excellent chapter!  Loving the research angle. 
Glad you liked it!

02/22/2011 01:40 am
Questions Needing Answers         
Oy vey!!  Surely Angel(us) and Wesley aren't actually contemplating bringing them back.  I was thinking (and  hoping) they would be able to trick Satan and get themselves out.  More please.

09/17/2013 11:16 pm
Sympathy for the Devil         
  Haha, that was a pretty amusing chapter, but see that just worries me.  You've set a tone that tells me the angst is only going to get cranked way the hell up.
Yep. Don't know why I like angst. But I do. I like reading it and writing it. 

mazza
02/21/2011 10:23 pm
Sympathy for the Devil         

oh you made me laugh out loud with the sympathy for the devil moment - keep it up!

I figured if anyone could crack jokes in hell, it would be our heroes.

09/17/2013 11:12 pm
Visitors         
  At times like this I just think, leave it to Angel to be this man this island about this whole thing.  He will probably go to his team, but he won't go to anyone outside.  
This is true. He's really always going to be a go it alone type deep down. 

07/14/2012 04:01 pm
Visitors         
Woo-hoo!  Whistler!  And yeah, AtS Season 5 was all *about* Angel straying from the mission.
Bringing Whistler back was one of those commuter rail inspirations, which occur when I have all sorts of extra time to ponder my fiction while waiting for the ^&*(^&*!$%^ train to arrive...

03/03/2011 02:46 am
Visitors         
Very impressed with your renditon of Eve! She's a hard one to convey.   
Thanks! I was a little worried about getting her right.

mazza
02/20/2011 07:35 pm
Visitors         

ooohhh, loved it, you now have me shouting for more! (writing,spelling and grammar aok as well).

jane
02/20/2011 01:23 pm
Visitors         
Textsuper update, wonder what Angel will have to do to make things right. Looking forward to more.

02/20/2011 06:54 am
Visitors         
Hee, hee, heee!!  Angel(us) deserves all the tormenting that can be done to him.  More please!
I do like poking Angel. Sometimes he seems like a target big as all outdoors...

09/17/2013 11:08 pm
Dances with Demons         
  Well, there was a nice reprieve there.  Relatively happyish.
  I know you are going to ratchet things up though.  I just hope you don't take the tortures farther than I can follow because I am enjoying this story so far.  
I apologize in advance for future chapters...

08/19/2011 03:40 pm
Dances with Demons         
This is one hell of an audacious story.  I'm quite impressed by the concept.  The plunge through the window was quite a shocker too.  Now, I have to read the next chapters and see how it ends!

Blue
http://www.tthfanfic.org/authors.php?no=12717&list=profile
I just was inspired after reading a bunch of 'character death' stories. I thought, ok, what if they started out dead, and went from there? I kept myself occupied on a lot of boring train rides thinking about how that might work out, and finally decided that I needed to write it down.
Glad I whetted your appetite!

mazza
02/19/2011 10:02 pm
Dances with Demons         

like the title of this chapter, only hell could provide eternal demon fighting and make it seem like fun for Spike and Buffy. I like that Spike wondered if he had dusted Angel in the process, you have me intrigued as to where this is going and how they might get out of Hell (if that is what is going to happen) and who might help them. Good work!

02/19/2011 08:15 pm
Dances with Demons         
An eternity of this is like heaven to these two.  Someone in charge has got to see that and do something.
Have you been reading my mind? ;-)

09/17/2013 11:04 pm
The Space Between         
  Well hhat was a damn twist wasn't it.  I didn't in any way shape or form see that coming.
Buahaha. I like to keep people guessing. 

mazza
02/19/2011 09:51 pm
The Space Between         

so our two heroes meet - why do I get the feelling there should have been a cackle after the line "oh you'll be together. In Hell" - I swear  I heard it! Really liked the meeting and looking forward to next chapter which I am now on my way to read.

02/19/2011 08:08 pm
The Space Between         
Ahh,  what a heartfelt Spuffy reunion!

02/17/2011 10:27 pm
The Space Between         
Nah.  I do not believe they'll actually be in hell (unless having to go back to real life qualifies).  More soon please.

Time of Change
02/17/2011 04:18 pm
The Space Between         
Very interesting!  I look forward to reading more.

09/17/2013 10:58 pm
Broken glass         
  Whew, Well can't say I didn't see Spike dusting hi.self coming, but that was about as dramatic as possible.  In a good way.

  Angels' self fladulation was even tough to take as well there.

  I dig your writing , your killin me with this one.
Thank you! Sorry about the killing though...

09/26/2011 07:48 am
Broken glass         

OMG - I love your story already - it has connected with my heart from the first chapter - I very glad that I read your other works first - somehow makes this, even just these first two chapters, very special.

Thank you! I know some people thought it was pretty abrupt, but I had my own mental challenge - start with two dead main characters, and go from there. 

02/19/2011 08:01 pm
Broken glass         
Glad that at least Angel is stepping in this chapter's title at least...

mazza
02/16/2011 11:09 pm
Broken glass         

This is exactly how Angel should be reacting and feeling, well done on the characterisation and conversation between him and Wesley. Really enjoying your writing.  

Thanks so much!

02/16/2011 01:07 am
Broken glass         
More soon please!!

09/17/2013 10:55 pm
Three Days         
Wow, ok that was really really sad.

  You ratcheted the beck outta the angst there.
I was in an angsty mood, what can I say. 

I also just had the idea: what if you start the story with the main characters dead, and go from there? 

02/19/2011 07:46 pm
Three Days         
OOOO...KAYYY...  Where do we go from here?   Too much angstiness for a first chapter...
Ahh, no such thing as too much angstiness :-)

jane
02/15/2011 06:26 pm
Three Days         
TextWow didn't expect that. Stil the fics not finshed and Spike and Buffy are oddly resilient in the face of death. Hoping for a happy ending

jane
02/15/2011 06:12 pm
Three Days         
TextWow didn't expect that. Stil the fics not finshed and Spike and Buffy are oddly resilient in the face of death. Hoping for a happy ending
It does start out kinda angsty. And I must say, we'll probably get even darker before we emerge into the light. But there will be some light at the end of the tunnel at some point...

02/14/2011 05:26 am
Three Days         
OMG!!  I'm actually sniffling here.  I  cannot wait for the next installment.
It should be live very soon!

Thanks for the encouraging words - it's my first attempt at fanfic, and the first fiction of any sort I've written in about 20 years!

02/14/2011 04:00 am
Three Days         

Oh man was that an angsty start.  Great story Meets.  :)

I'm always drawn to the angsty ones, myself. We'll just have to see when I get to the light at the end of the tunnel. And whether the light is a train... :)

carole
02/14/2011 02:30 am
Three Days         
wow great start... i cannot wait to see where you take this
Thanks!

mazza
02/13/2011 07:40 pm
Three Days         

well written piece - but so dark. The characters were beautifully depicted. I admit I am curious as to where this will go.

Thanks for the encouragement! I was nervous about putting it out there!